Wednesday, July 20, 2016

How To Cancel Communikate

I get dozens of people show up at this blog after Googling “how to cancel Communikate” or how they can communicate (ha ha! Get it?) with someone at Communikate.

They end up at the post Communikate Makes IBO’s Superior Over Other IBO’s  where a reader put in the toll free number to Communikate 1-866-333-3204. I have not tried to phone that number. For all I know it goes to a sex chat line so phone at your own risk!

Here I want to say that one of the dumbest thing we used to hear from the assholes in our upline when they wanted us to sign up for Communikate and make the Amway cult leaders richer was that they called it a “personal assistant”. Now when I think of personal assistant this is usually someone who tags around with the person paying their salary and helping them keep their life organized. This could be a whole bunch of things - grocery shopping, picking up the kids from school, walking the dog, running errands, meal planning, keeping the house tidy and organized (not necessarily as a housecleaner), running to Starbucks to pick up snacks, or whatever tasks they’ve agreed upon. A woman I worked with over 20 years ago quit and took a job as the personal assistant to a president of a big company. Now some might think that was working in the office in a clerical type of role, but no it was more keeping his homelife organized. One of her first tasks when she was hired was to take the kids on vacation to Hawaii because the old man had promised them a trip there but was too busy to take them.

So those are the things I think of that a personal assistant does.

What does an Amway ambot think a personal assistant does? They think a personal assistant is renting a toll free phone number that takes messages, call forwards a phone call, and does conference calls.

What the fuck? What kind of fucking moron thinks a personal assistant is an automated phone system? A fucking brainwashed Amway ambot! Those brainwashed fools don’t realize they are being scammed and their beloved cult leaders are raking in the dough if they’re foolish enough to sign up for Communikate aka “kate” aka personal assistant.

The majority of people who sign up with Amway usually quit within a year. They now have the problem of cancelling this voice mail system that isn’t worth the $36.95/month or however much the ambots are paying into it these days. Like anything else to do with Amway signing up is easy but trying to quit or get your money back pretty much means promising your first born.

Here’s a former employee with his views on Communikate.

I worked for Webley (company that owns communikate) and yes, it is a scam, the uplines get kickbacks, that's why they push it. They make it super hard to cancel now, you can no longer call to cancel, too many were canceling! They now have chat support, but you cannot cancel by chat, we're supposed to call them and pressure the Amwayers to keep using Communikate. Free tip: Accounts NEVER go to collections, just change your payment method to something incorrect and the account will close itself in a few months. Got questions, ask away?

The amount the uplines receive differs according to the specific deal they have with the respective group, BRITT, WWG, etc. It ranges from $5 to $10 per sign up. "Diamond" level people get special treatment. Another fun tip: Due to Webley's ridiculous billing practice we have gotten many of our clients Debit cards cancelled, it's true! We bill monthly for the service (36.95) but we ALSO bill separately for usage, which usually runs between .25 to .75 cent for most users. These tiny, stupid charges are tagged as "potential fraud" charges by 99% of banks and they "lock" the cards. Lots of people have had important charges for other recurring services bounce back thanks to Webley's stupidity and refusal to make even a tiny good faith effort to better serve their customers. Now you know!

So there you have it. A bit of inside scoop on the deals the Amway cult leaders make with Communikate to get their piece of the pie. Just for those doubting ambots who don’t believe the Amway tool scam.

From the sound of things I would suggest that if you want to cancel Communikate the easiest option might be to call your bank and say you lost your credit card and get a new one issued. The next time Communikate tries to charge the old credit card number, bouncey, bouncey!

And less money in some Diamonds pockets the next month! Oh wouldn’t you like to be in the room when the Diamonds are fighting over how they’ll split up the Communikate profits!

Or listening in on the telephone when the Diamond phones the Platinum to give him shit that someone in his downline just cancelled Communikate!


  1. Hi Anna:
    Reading this blog post of yours reminded me of when I cancelled "Kate" eight years ago. That was when you could still cancel by phone. I think I was just past the deadline where I could get a refund for the month and was told they couldn't refund the payment that had been charged. I really didn't put up too much of an argument, but kept a sharp eye out for future charges for Communikate. There were no further charges.
    The reason I'm telling you this is that while I was an Ambot, there were so many stupid messages left on my Communikate. The messages just piled up. I would listen to some of them to help clear the inbox, but was never really regular at listening to the nuggets of wisdom left on Kate by my upline. It wasn't until I cancelled Kate that I regularly listened to the messages. I first listened to the ones still in the inbox to clear it. I then would check my Kate messages multiple times a day and listen to them, all the while rolling my eyes and mocking my former upline. I think it was worth not getting a refund for that last month, with all the fun I had.
    I guess that is a reason I failed as an Ambot. I wasn't "Core". I didn't listen to my Kate messages with regularity! ;)

    1. Hi David. Thanks for stopping by with your story. And LOL on the "nuggets of wisdom" can't tell you how many times I heard that bullshit. That was the carrot dangling over Ambots heads to make sure they went to the next Scamway meeting or listened to Kate. That fear that they might miss that one nugget of wisdom. And there never was any. Just more bullshit Amspeak.

  2. CommuniKate is one of the prime ways in which Amway rips off its IBOs. Forty bucks a month to get stupid little fortune-cookie messages? It's a huge waste of money.

    I have been told by a higher-up in Amway that when an IBO cancels CommuniKate, it's almost always the first step in his dropping out of the business totally. That's why the company has made it harder and harder to cancel the service. They try desperately to get you to keep CommuniKate.

    Simply change your credit card number. And when your up-line calls to complain, just tell him to fuck off.

    1. Anonymous - Amway's owners were involved in the set up of the company Comunikate or Webley I'm foggy on their involvement. They were either silent partners, investors, or provided financing. So that is why the big push was/is on for Ambots to sign up for this useless program. Anyone with a Smartphone gets all the same type features depending on the plan. It's all about ripping off the Ambots.

  3. Communikate charges $1.00 to any valid credit card entered as a "payment method". "Changing your payment method to something incorrect" is no longer an option it seems. I would imagine that if the $1.00 charge doesn't go through for any given number, then they say the card is invalid and ask you to enter a valid card. And of course there is no option to just delete the card you have on file. The only thing I could do without calling/chatting it up, was changing the expiration date by re-entering the card number and making this the last valid month before it expires, so maybe we will see if their computer pays attention to dates and charges me after it is "expired" next month. I got charged $1.00 twice actually. The first time on accident and the second time to actually see what caused it. Yep, just entering a valid card. It by default charges any number entered $1.00. The $1 charge hasn't appeared in the Transactions section at the bottom of the Account Balance page in my Communikate Account, but it does show on my Credit Card notifications. Maybe the $1 charge is somewhere in the EULA or Terms and Conditions, or maybe it's just some shady charge that they assume people won't care about. Or maybe it will refund tomorrow. Maybe I will try to make it back this way next month to let you guys know if it hits again even though it's an "expired"!card, and about the $1 charges. So yea I want to cancel because I don't want my card charged anymore, but I don't want to lose the old recordings saved to the app on my phone. I'm weird like that, this was a big chunk of my life haha. Anyone know if you lose the saved "Kates" on the phone app if you call and cancel, and just don't delete the app? Or does cancelling prompt some sort of Am-Hack to delete the App autonomously?

    Part 1 of 2...
    Anonymous, West of the Rockies

    1. Hi Anonymous, West of the Rockies. Thanks for stopping by. $1 charge on your credit card? That's how desperate those Amway cult leaders are. Anything for a buck! Yeah, let us know what happens on that expired card number you entered. The other thing you can do is call your credit card and tell them you didn't authorize those dollar charges and request a chargeback. They might be able to block more charges from those criminals. Good luck with that.

  4. Part 2 of 2
    On a side-note, it's pretty trippy that there is something that can make you so hopeful, but to get income you have to rely on the purchases of those below you who may only get very little return, even with great effort. Mathematically, there have to be people continuously losing large chunks of money at all times, who will never make it higher up. It's like the whole thing is just fine with people not making it, of course the more people the better to the structure because maybe they will bring more people in, but the people who just string along for years and years blaming themselves... They are instrumentally included in the process, not turned away, and that is because the stragglers provide a large part of product consumption.
    I guess you could look at it like an image of a brain neuron or branches on a tree. There will always be the outer-most thinnest branches who have nothing extending past them. The tree-trunk plans on that. The cell-body depends on the Dendrites. UGH. I have struggled with this for a long time, because it makes sense, but then it doesn't. You have the opportunity to surpass the person who got you in, but at any given time there are so many who have tremendous difficulty & major financial expenses, who are losing out each & every month. When I would talk with someone about this opportunity, I felt like I was coercing them & leading them into something that would potentially kill their spirit. Something that would make them forget about all of their god-given dreams & give them new dreams. Dreams that required them to spend $300+ on products each month, so full of Sucralose & Soybeans that they could kill a heard of Cattle. And literally that is what's happening. Killing the dreams of heards of Cattle.
    And WTF is up with the WWDB Emblem? It looks like the outline of some dark Medieval Battle Mask, with four horns or something.. I can't even find it online when I search for it. Not the Diamond with the world behind it in the horizontal oval. This has four points on the top with a diamond under each point, the WWDB Diamond/World horizontal oval(where the eyes would be if it were a helmet), and then a larger diamond where the mouth would be. This emblem is on the front of the giant WWDB mobile Monument. The Plaque/Monument with the huge slowly spinning fake diamond the width of a mans shoulders. It has 10 straight lines for the outline. 2 on the bottom that meet at the lowest point, like a chin point. Then 2 that go up like the side of a face(& continue upward to make the outer of the 4 "crown" points at the top of said lines), then the remaining 6 lines which complete the 4 points on top. I think they said it is supposed to be a "crown"? But why would a crown be such a tall shape & go down to a chin-like point? Maybe the outline of a crown worn on someone's head? To me it felt symbolic of 2 horns & 2 ears(or 4 horns), a single eye, & a large round diamond for a mouth(that looks like an upper & lower row of teeth when the light hits it a certain way). There is something about that image that gives me the creeps. I was really creeped out by that emblem at the last major event I went to, seeing it for hours & hours & hours. Honestly I think it is a major part of what finally made me realize that I was losing all of my lifelong dreams/beliefs/potential for something that I didn't feel very comfortable with. So now I am just following a different path. Recently had an idea that could open a new chapter for me, without having to exploit people's hopes & dreams. I hope everyone can find their dreams, + happiness to go along with them! I wish you strength!
    Thanks for reading. Initially I just wanted to post about Communikate & it sorta burst into an essay on how I have felt for a while, but haven't really shared with anyone. But I am sure, that out of anyone, the people who are visiting this site can relate more than anyone else! Thanks everyone!
    -West of the Rockies 5/15/17

    1. Hi Anonymous, West of the Rockies. Thanks for sharing your story.

      Amway is all about selling the hope not the soap.

      And this is the place to vent!

      As you pointed out its amazing how many people can be suckered into signing up to Amway based on that hope. The hope they'll be that one in a million to crawl to the top of the pyramid and make money. The odds are better to buy a lottery ticket!

      Hey if you know the guest log in that WWDB is using, leave us a comment. It used to be log in guest and password: dream. Those World Wide Destructive Bastards changed it so now we can't sign in to see where and when they're holding the next Amway brainwashing conferences.

      Got to do our part by loading up keywords to suck in Ambots!


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