Ambot gets a phone call late afternoon from the upline. The pompous sack of shit Platinum is returning home, flying into the airport that is about a 45 minute drive from our house - when the weather and traffic is good. All downline are being asked to get to the airport to greet him when he comes in.
Ambot is all hyped to go. He must go to the airport to cheer on the cult leader when he walks through the airport door.
I tell him to stay home where its safe. Its snowing and there is a police advisory telling people to stay off the streets if they don't need to go out. Ambot is determined to get to the airport, slowly driving through the snow, and paying the outrageous parking fee at the airport. Not to mention spending 3 or 4 hours on this exercise when he could have been doing something else that's more productive. Absolutely irresponsible taking risks driving in snow when the snowplows aren't doing a good job of keeping the streets cleared.
I don't want Ambot to go alone so I'm dumb enough to get in the car. My car by the way. Nail biting drive to the airport but we made it safely.
Another downline IBO wasn't so lucky. He got into an accident on his way to the airport and ended up at the hospital instead.
What risks do these Ambots need to take with their lives to show their devotion to their cult leaders?
Frightening.
Tuesday, September 14, 2010
Sunday, September 12, 2010
Upline violating Amway's rules?
I can't tell you how many times we heard from our upline:
"If you don't buy the tools, I'm not going to work with you!"
Upline defined as the arrogant prick who sponsored my Ambot, his sponsor, and so and so on through to the pompous sack of shit Platinum and Emerald. I have tape recorded most of them saying this.
Tools = WWDB premier membership, Communikate, CD's, books, functions, seminars. They are referred to by Amway as Business Support Materials.
To paraphrase Amway, these tools are optional and IBO's should be guided by their own good judgement in deciding what's best and that their sponsoring upline is obligated to provide training and support whether or not the tools are purchased.
BULLSHIT!!!!
To paraphrase the pompous sack of shit, if you don't buy the tools and attend Amway meetings, then I'll know you're not a serious business builder and I won't work with you.
Being a devoted Amway cult follower, my Ambot religiously purchased not one, but many CD's and books every week and went to every Amway meeting, regional, major function, etc, etc. pouring thousands of dollars into the Amway nightmare.
Perhaps some of the recordings of the pompous sack of shit declaring his refusal to work with non-compliant downline should be forwarded to Amway.
"If you don't buy the tools, I'm not going to work with you!"
Upline defined as the arrogant prick who sponsored my Ambot, his sponsor, and so and so on through to the pompous sack of shit Platinum and Emerald. I have tape recorded most of them saying this.
Tools = WWDB premier membership, Communikate, CD's, books, functions, seminars. They are referred to by Amway as Business Support Materials.
To paraphrase Amway, these tools are optional and IBO's should be guided by their own good judgement in deciding what's best and that their sponsoring upline is obligated to provide training and support whether or not the tools are purchased.
BULLSHIT!!!!
To paraphrase the pompous sack of shit, if you don't buy the tools and attend Amway meetings, then I'll know you're not a serious business builder and I won't work with you.
Being a devoted Amway cult follower, my Ambot religiously purchased not one, but many CD's and books every week and went to every Amway meeting, regional, major function, etc, etc. pouring thousands of dollars into the Amway nightmare.
Perhaps some of the recordings of the pompous sack of shit declaring his refusal to work with non-compliant downline should be forwarded to Amway.
Friday, September 10, 2010
Got chairs?
BYOC = Bring Your Own Chair
Not counting living room furniture because couches and recliners are cumbersome to move, in our possession we have a handful of chairs that can be moved around fairly easily, probably the same as most households. We have 6 dining room chairs, 4 patio furniture chairs, and two or three folding lawn chairs. All put to use whenever we held Amway meetings at our house. We also borrowed stacking chairs from my parents, about 10 or 12.
Luckily for us the pompous sack of shit only held a couple of meetings at our house. He refused to show the plan at our house because the Ambot couldn't sucker any prospects into attending.
The Amway meetings were held at the homes of the pompous sack of shit or cross line and our presence was mandatory. Also mandatory were our chairs. In particular the chairs that did not belong to us but belonged to our parents. If the upline commanded the Ambot to bring the stacking chairs he busted his ass driving to the next town where my parents lived, picked them up, and transported them to the meeting, meaning he had to get their early to help set up like a good little IBO.
It bugged the shit out of me. This was our crossline, occasionally upline. Why the hell couldn't they find their own chairs. Or contact my parents themselves to ask about borrowing the stacking chairs and making their own arrangements to pick them up and bring them back?
We were always told until we became 1000 pins that we weren't expected to supply various things for the Amway meetings, that the upline and people who were 1000 pins were the ones responsible for everything required at the meetings.
One time Ambot could not attend the Amway meeting due to a previous committment. He still busted his ass getting the stacking chairs across town for the IBO who was holding the meeting at his house. And get this. The Platinum sack of shit phoned Ambot and chewed him out for not attending that meeting. Ambot just sat there with the phone stuck to his ear taking the abuse from the pompous sack of shit, who is at least 10 years younger than him.
We're all adults here. Why phone and scold someone? No adult appreciates being treated like a child. Besides according to the pompous sack of shit's order of importance:
1. god
2. spouse
3. family
4. job
5. Amway
Ambot was involved in one of the top 4 on the list on that particular night.
The Platinum is a hypocrite.
And one more time I send out a big fuck you to that pompous sack of shit!
Oh and a footnote about those stacking chairs. My father got so tired of loaning them out to us that he gave them to us and now he borrows the chairs from us whenever he needs them.
Not counting living room furniture because couches and recliners are cumbersome to move, in our possession we have a handful of chairs that can be moved around fairly easily, probably the same as most households. We have 6 dining room chairs, 4 patio furniture chairs, and two or three folding lawn chairs. All put to use whenever we held Amway meetings at our house. We also borrowed stacking chairs from my parents, about 10 or 12.
Luckily for us the pompous sack of shit only held a couple of meetings at our house. He refused to show the plan at our house because the Ambot couldn't sucker any prospects into attending.
The Amway meetings were held at the homes of the pompous sack of shit or cross line and our presence was mandatory. Also mandatory were our chairs. In particular the chairs that did not belong to us but belonged to our parents. If the upline commanded the Ambot to bring the stacking chairs he busted his ass driving to the next town where my parents lived, picked them up, and transported them to the meeting, meaning he had to get their early to help set up like a good little IBO.
It bugged the shit out of me. This was our crossline, occasionally upline. Why the hell couldn't they find their own chairs. Or contact my parents themselves to ask about borrowing the stacking chairs and making their own arrangements to pick them up and bring them back?
We were always told until we became 1000 pins that we weren't expected to supply various things for the Amway meetings, that the upline and people who were 1000 pins were the ones responsible for everything required at the meetings.
One time Ambot could not attend the Amway meeting due to a previous committment. He still busted his ass getting the stacking chairs across town for the IBO who was holding the meeting at his house. And get this. The Platinum sack of shit phoned Ambot and chewed him out for not attending that meeting. Ambot just sat there with the phone stuck to his ear taking the abuse from the pompous sack of shit, who is at least 10 years younger than him.
We're all adults here. Why phone and scold someone? No adult appreciates being treated like a child. Besides according to the pompous sack of shit's order of importance:
1. god
2. spouse
3. family
4. job
5. Amway
Ambot was involved in one of the top 4 on the list on that particular night.
The Platinum is a hypocrite.
And one more time I send out a big fuck you to that pompous sack of shit!
Oh and a footnote about those stacking chairs. My father got so tired of loaning them out to us that he gave them to us and now he borrows the chairs from us whenever he needs them.
Thursday, September 9, 2010
One Shortlived Downline
Yes, you read the title correctly. My Ambot actually sponsored one downline, let's call him Trevor, an old acquaintance who's willing to support my husband no matter what it is. If he's in, that was good enough for Trevor.
So Ambot got the one downline shortly after signing up with Amway and all of a sudden he's like the golden boy with all the upline, with congratulations, and wow look how fast you sponsored a new IBO.
This was just before Family Reunion. The pressure was on to Ambot and his new downline to get to the function. Trevor made last minute plans to drive down with our sponsor, aka Captain Fuck Up. If you missed that debacle, the story is here. This explains why Trevor didn't get there.
Ambot's new upline like the good little IBO he wanted to be paid the $150 Amway join up fee and purchased a few products like Perfect Water, Amway's answer to all of life's ailments.
A week or two after he'd signed up Trevor was supposed to come to an Amway meeting and beforehand meet up with our pompous sack of shit Platinum. For whatever reason, he didn't make it. The pompous sack of shit was outraged! How dare one of the IBO's in his downline disrespect him like that. The pompous sack of shit has one of his underlings phone Trevor to chew him out for not showing up.
Yes, people in their 50's really enjoy being chewed out by a cult follower in their 20's. Yeah right!
So Trevor got his revenge by immediately quitting.
I told the Ambot we should do the same. But no, Ambot wanted to continue on anyway.
Ambot never sponsored another downline.
Ambot's experience is typical. Most IBO's never sponsor a downline. And those who do have trouble retaining their downline.
So Ambot got the one downline shortly after signing up with Amway and all of a sudden he's like the golden boy with all the upline, with congratulations, and wow look how fast you sponsored a new IBO.
This was just before Family Reunion. The pressure was on to Ambot and his new downline to get to the function. Trevor made last minute plans to drive down with our sponsor, aka Captain Fuck Up. If you missed that debacle, the story is here. This explains why Trevor didn't get there.
Ambot's new upline like the good little IBO he wanted to be paid the $150 Amway join up fee and purchased a few products like Perfect Water, Amway's answer to all of life's ailments.
A week or two after he'd signed up Trevor was supposed to come to an Amway meeting and beforehand meet up with our pompous sack of shit Platinum. For whatever reason, he didn't make it. The pompous sack of shit was outraged! How dare one of the IBO's in his downline disrespect him like that. The pompous sack of shit has one of his underlings phone Trevor to chew him out for not showing up.
Yes, people in their 50's really enjoy being chewed out by a cult follower in their 20's. Yeah right!
So Trevor got his revenge by immediately quitting.
I told the Ambot we should do the same. But no, Ambot wanted to continue on anyway.
Ambot never sponsored another downline.
Ambot's experience is typical. Most IBO's never sponsor a downline. And those who do have trouble retaining their downline.
Sponsoring Downline
It's nearly impossible to sponsor anyone to become an Amway IBO - Independent Business Owner. First of all almost everyone in North America over the age of 30 has heard of Amway either from previously being an IBO, being pestered to become an IBO, or know people who are/were IBO's. Very few people are interested. Amway products are similar in quality to products that can be purchased much cheaper at local grocery or drug stores. Hardly anyone knows anyone who's actually made money with Amway.
Though many IBO's will lie and pretend business is good, it really isn't. Its just part of the Amway lies they are trained by their upline to tell.
Upline says its simple. You buy and use the Amway products and you find people who will duplicate you and do the same. Depending on how many people you can find you have the potential to make hundreds or thousands of dollars each month.
The reality is most IBO's don't find anyone so they try singlehandedly to purchase Amway products for their own consumption to try to get their PV (points volume that each Amway product is assigned) as high as they can in order to earn a bonus check. An approximate value is for every $300 in Amway products purchased, the IBO will receive a $10 bonus check. If you have people in your downline active purchasing Amway products then you can potentially earn a higher bonus check.
IBO's lose money right away. They probably bought $300 worth of products that they wouldn't normally buy if they went to a local store to shop such as food bars and power drinks. Add to that amount the tools they have to buy - books, CD's, membership into their cult-like line of sponship, message system, web page, function, seminars, etc - which can cost hundreds of dollars each month, and most IBO's run a huge monthly loss. Most people don't remain IBO's too long. When their money runs out, so do they.
Others, unfortunately, are pressured by their upline to put charges on their credit cards, take out home equity loans, sell cars, do whatever is necessary to buy, buy, buy.
Amway's own literature shows that less than 1% of IBO's actually earn money. What kind of success rate is that? Pretty shitty.
Its nearly next to impossible for the average IBO to sponsor any downline. If they do, its very hard to keep them motivated after months of losses to keep buying Amway products. Most IBO's quit within the year.
Though many IBO's will lie and pretend business is good, it really isn't. Its just part of the Amway lies they are trained by their upline to tell.
Upline says its simple. You buy and use the Amway products and you find people who will duplicate you and do the same. Depending on how many people you can find you have the potential to make hundreds or thousands of dollars each month.
The reality is most IBO's don't find anyone so they try singlehandedly to purchase Amway products for their own consumption to try to get their PV (points volume that each Amway product is assigned) as high as they can in order to earn a bonus check. An approximate value is for every $300 in Amway products purchased, the IBO will receive a $10 bonus check. If you have people in your downline active purchasing Amway products then you can potentially earn a higher bonus check.
IBO's lose money right away. They probably bought $300 worth of products that they wouldn't normally buy if they went to a local store to shop such as food bars and power drinks. Add to that amount the tools they have to buy - books, CD's, membership into their cult-like line of sponship, message system, web page, function, seminars, etc - which can cost hundreds of dollars each month, and most IBO's run a huge monthly loss. Most people don't remain IBO's too long. When their money runs out, so do they.
Others, unfortunately, are pressured by their upline to put charges on their credit cards, take out home equity loans, sell cars, do whatever is necessary to buy, buy, buy.
Amway's own literature shows that less than 1% of IBO's actually earn money. What kind of success rate is that? Pretty shitty.
Its nearly next to impossible for the average IBO to sponsor any downline. If they do, its very hard to keep them motivated after months of losses to keep buying Amway products. Most IBO's quit within the year.
Monday, September 6, 2010
Forced to attend Family Reunion
The first major Amway function the Ambot and I attended was Family Reunion. The upline said we must attend. If we didn't then they'd know we weren't serious business builders and they wouldn't work with us. In hindsight it would have been better to stay at home.
The Ambot came from a lousy family, really horrible people, all of whom have been in trouble with the law at one time or another. This is the type of person that these cults prey upon. So he was all "pumped" and blabbed about family reunion to everyone he came across, probably because his outlaw relatives never had family reunions because they're a shitty excuse for family. These people promised to be his new, better family and made him believe family reunion was the not to miss event of the season.
The plan was to put our dog in a kennel for the weekend and to pick up the Ambot's sponsor, Captain Fuck Up, and his wife and make the 6 hour drive in our car because we owned a new model, reliable vehicle. Captain Fuck Up has one clunker after another that's breaking down. We chose a kennel close to their house, about an hour's drive from us, rather than one of the 4 or 5 kennels within a 15 minute drive from our house. We planned to leave around 10am so we had to book an early check in at the kennel for our dog. Prior to leaving the house Captain Fuck Up called to say his sister was delayed in getting to his house to babysit for the weekend. She wouldn't get there until mid-day. We decided that we'd drive down after dropping the dog off at the kennel so we wouldn't miss that evening's events and they would drive down in their own vehicle mid-afternoon after the relatives arrived at their house.
So now I'm pissed off. We could have taken our dog with us if we'd been travelling alone and not promised the back seat to another couple. The hotel we were staying at allowed dogs. We could have put our dog into a doggy daycare while attending Saturday's function so as not to leave her alone in the hotel room. 4 days board plus extra fee for early check in plus extra walks several times a day came to over $100. We'd already put $100 down on a credit card when we'd made the reservation to confirm the kennel space. If we'd taken our dog with us, free stay at the hotel, plus $20 for Saturday at a doggy daycare about a mile from where the family reunion function was taking place. Pissed me right off, but par for the course for Captain Fuck Up.
About 3 hours into our trip Captain Fuck Up phones to say he can't find his wallet. No wallet means no drivers license, no credit cards, no cash, no ID, etc. He phoned a number of times and in one of the calls he suggested he might have left it at our house. Seeing as how Captain Fuck Up was speaking to the Ambot and not me I don't know if he was demanding we turn around and return home to check our house for his wallet. Wasn't going to happen. His wallet has never been located, in our house or elsewhere.
Around 6pm I pulled into the hotel's parking lot. Ambot's phone rang scaring the shit out of me. You guessed it. Captain Fuck Up again still looking for his wallet and now asking if we knew the hours of the office where he could get a replacement driver's license. Gee its nearly 6 on a Friday night and Captain Fuck Up actually thinks a government office is still going to be open. And what the hell is he harrassing the Ambot for? He's still at home and has access to a phone book where he can phone the office himself and get the information. What more did he want from us?
Anyway Captain Fuck Up and his wife never made it to Family Reunion. Guess they weren't serious business builders. How unfortunate that the upline continued to work with them anyway.
The Ambot came from a lousy family, really horrible people, all of whom have been in trouble with the law at one time or another. This is the type of person that these cults prey upon. So he was all "pumped" and blabbed about family reunion to everyone he came across, probably because his outlaw relatives never had family reunions because they're a shitty excuse for family. These people promised to be his new, better family and made him believe family reunion was the not to miss event of the season.
The plan was to put our dog in a kennel for the weekend and to pick up the Ambot's sponsor, Captain Fuck Up, and his wife and make the 6 hour drive in our car because we owned a new model, reliable vehicle. Captain Fuck Up has one clunker after another that's breaking down. We chose a kennel close to their house, about an hour's drive from us, rather than one of the 4 or 5 kennels within a 15 minute drive from our house. We planned to leave around 10am so we had to book an early check in at the kennel for our dog. Prior to leaving the house Captain Fuck Up called to say his sister was delayed in getting to his house to babysit for the weekend. She wouldn't get there until mid-day. We decided that we'd drive down after dropping the dog off at the kennel so we wouldn't miss that evening's events and they would drive down in their own vehicle mid-afternoon after the relatives arrived at their house.
So now I'm pissed off. We could have taken our dog with us if we'd been travelling alone and not promised the back seat to another couple. The hotel we were staying at allowed dogs. We could have put our dog into a doggy daycare while attending Saturday's function so as not to leave her alone in the hotel room. 4 days board plus extra fee for early check in plus extra walks several times a day came to over $100. We'd already put $100 down on a credit card when we'd made the reservation to confirm the kennel space. If we'd taken our dog with us, free stay at the hotel, plus $20 for Saturday at a doggy daycare about a mile from where the family reunion function was taking place. Pissed me right off, but par for the course for Captain Fuck Up.
About 3 hours into our trip Captain Fuck Up phones to say he can't find his wallet. No wallet means no drivers license, no credit cards, no cash, no ID, etc. He phoned a number of times and in one of the calls he suggested he might have left it at our house. Seeing as how Captain Fuck Up was speaking to the Ambot and not me I don't know if he was demanding we turn around and return home to check our house for his wallet. Wasn't going to happen. His wallet has never been located, in our house or elsewhere.
Around 6pm I pulled into the hotel's parking lot. Ambot's phone rang scaring the shit out of me. You guessed it. Captain Fuck Up again still looking for his wallet and now asking if we knew the hours of the office where he could get a replacement driver's license. Gee its nearly 6 on a Friday night and Captain Fuck Up actually thinks a government office is still going to be open. And what the hell is he harrassing the Ambot for? He's still at home and has access to a phone book where he can phone the office himself and get the information. What more did he want from us?
Anyway Captain Fuck Up and his wife never made it to Family Reunion. Guess they weren't serious business builders. How unfortunate that the upline continued to work with them anyway.
Saturday, September 4, 2010
The upline's order of importance
Every Amway meeting that we attended where our upline platinum was the speaker we heard the same list over and over about his life and where everything stood in his order of importance. Here's his list in the order he gave it:
1. God
2. Wife
3. Family
4. Job
5. Amway
I'm sure everyone can look at his Amway order of importance list and say that's about right, that's a good plan to adhere to. If he actually followed his own list.
However at every Amway meeting we attended he would complain and bitch at us that he was giving up time with his wife and kids to come to this meeting and talk to us.
So? Big deal! I was taking time away from my family too just to show up at his Amway meeting and listen to him spout off his bullshit.
OK. Let's go back and look at his list. His wife and kids have the number 2 and 3 spots in his life's order of importance. Amway is down there at number 5.
What? Is he a fucking hypocrite? He can't even follow his own guidelines. The truth is Amway is really either number 1 or 2 on his list. Actually I'd say number 2. He was very religious and did nothing business related on Sunday. Church and family only. No Amway business.
So here we were at the same Amway meeting. Two of us with the same bad attitude that we didn't want to be wasting our time at the Amway meeting when we'd rather be spending time with our family. Which one of us was going to do something about it?
I finally put my life in order according to his order of importance and all of a sudden I'm an evil person who no longer attends meetings because I don't put Amway out of order according to that list.
Like I really give a flying fuck what a bunch of people I don't like think of me. I know who the real evil, dangerous person is here: the cult leader. The pompous sack of shit Platinum.
1. God
2. Wife
3. Family
4. Job
5. Amway
I'm sure everyone can look at his Amway order of importance list and say that's about right, that's a good plan to adhere to. If he actually followed his own list.
However at every Amway meeting we attended he would complain and bitch at us that he was giving up time with his wife and kids to come to this meeting and talk to us.
So? Big deal! I was taking time away from my family too just to show up at his Amway meeting and listen to him spout off his bullshit.
OK. Let's go back and look at his list. His wife and kids have the number 2 and 3 spots in his life's order of importance. Amway is down there at number 5.
What? Is he a fucking hypocrite? He can't even follow his own guidelines. The truth is Amway is really either number 1 or 2 on his list. Actually I'd say number 2. He was very religious and did nothing business related on Sunday. Church and family only. No Amway business.
So here we were at the same Amway meeting. Two of us with the same bad attitude that we didn't want to be wasting our time at the Amway meeting when we'd rather be spending time with our family. Which one of us was going to do something about it?
I finally put my life in order according to his order of importance and all of a sudden I'm an evil person who no longer attends meetings because I don't put Amway out of order according to that list.
Like I really give a flying fuck what a bunch of people I don't like think of me. I know who the real evil, dangerous person is here: the cult leader. The pompous sack of shit Platinum.
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