Wednesday, December 15, 2010

An Expensive Social Club

Joecool recently wrote something on his blog to the effect that if you aren’t earning money in your Amway business but are spending lots of money on Amway purchases and tools then its almost like you’ve joined an expensive social club.

I think that statement may apply to Ambot. The more money he spent on Amway products and tools, the more his new friends liked him.

People are busy spending time with friends and family. They’ve busy at their jobs or business owners may end up with some odd hours to accommodate clients. People with school age children are involved in their kids recreational activities or driving them to their activities. Add in grocery shopping, spending time at the gym, walking the dog, and other recreational pursuits. How about quiet time at home reading a book, on the computer, or watching TV. What about the not so fun stuff around the house like cleaning, laundry, mowing the lawn, and keeping the garden weeded. Most people have things to do that fill their days. We lead busy lives just like countless others.

If we weren’t already busy enough after Ambot wanted to do the Amway thing again we were constantly on the go, go, go. Often there would be 2 or 3 board plans in a week that we had to attend even though the same old bullshit we’d heard the night before we listened to again. This would tie us up from 7pm to midnight. Nothing like boring us to death so we’re ready to sleep. Not to mention any other seminars or rallies or other events the upline decided we should attend.

I remember being at a function and listening to a Diamond speaker who was showing the audience “lines” to use to pick up prospects. Say a prospect came up with the objection that “the business” wouldn’t work for them because they don’t have any friends. The Diamond says, then ask them: “How would you like to have some friends?”

The expensive social club reference triggered that memory.

Someone who doesn’t have friends may be interested in joining some sort of social group to meet people. But the purpose of being an Amway IBO is to find other prospects to join up and become IBO's too or to find customers to buy Amway products. So if the only friends you have are people already involved in Amway, there is no chance of getting any of them to sign up to be an IBO or to buy Amway products.

So even though we already lead busy lives Ambot decided we should be even busier. He had a whole new group of friends who were slyly influencing him to leave behind his old friends. He was full of self-importance whenever someone asked him to come over and he’d answer he was busy that night (Amway meeting). Not to mention the overload of text messages and phone calls that he immediately had to deal with from his upline.

I’m not here to suggest social clubs or how to meet new friends. All I want to say is if you are looking for a new group of people to hang out with there are many avenues to try. If one of your reasons to join Amway is to have a ready made group of friends that’s a bad decision. Amway is an expensive social club that will cause you financial and emotional distress. When you quit Amway that's the last you'll ever hear of these new friends fickle bastards that they are. These aren’t the kind of friends you need. This isn't the business venture you need.


  1. Spot on. You are basically "playing" Amway. It will be function after function, meeting after meeting. You see people come and go, people quit, people join but the ones who allegedly make money in Amway always seems to be the same. If you wre or are in WWDB, what new leaders are there? Basically the same ones I saw 12 years ago minus the ones who left WWDB.

  2. I don't recall seeing anyone in our group ever leave that's the weird thing. I'd see the odd prospect show up and attend a couple of meetings never to be seen again. The Platinum was a huge bully. If anyone went to him and say they were quitting he'd bully them into staying I'm sure. We didn't tell him. We just stopped buying products and going to meetings and not returning calls. Our new friends eventually stopped calling.

  3. Joecool, you are correct, the last year I was in the business was 1995 (Puryear/Shore/Greg Duncan line of sponsorship and the upline diamonds are still there though Greg went through a recent Bankruptcy and house foreclosure, our Emerald went to another MLM and is still working his job but many of the others have vanished, no new diamonds in our line or the crossline that I am familiar with. All the indicators are clear that business in North America has gone backwards for years. No new diamonds, high pins vanishing or going back to regular jobs. If people looked at all the FACTS before wasting their time they would never ever get involved in this scam and the only real money is made by the big pins from the over priced tools and functions that they sell to the Lemmings.

    ****Former WWDB Lemming****

  4. Anna,

    You probably weren't in long enough to see them leave. Anon is right, Amway is probably going backwards in North America, and growing in other countries. Some of those countries don't allow the Amway Tool Scam to exist, such as the UK and India.

  5. And therin lies the problem. You can't get the facts before starting this business.

    It's kept from you.

    No one would do this business if they knew about the man behind the cutain (the great and powerful OZ).

    How would you like to apply for a position at a restuarant as a waitress only to be told after you arrive for your first shift, 'Oh, yeah, you'll also be pole-dancing."

    You'd quit (I hope.)

    But if you were told how silly it is to be against pole-dancing when you were applying to be a waitress, you might feel your defenses weakening just a tad about those who do pole-dance.

    It's all conditioning.

  6. Anon,

    It isn't so much conditioning as it is lying.


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