Amway’s “Proven” System

I joined a retired businessman for lunch the other day and we got to talking about how nobody operates their business the same way. Take a gas station for instance. Some of them are open 24 hours. Others open at 6am and close at 10pm. Some gas stations have grocery stores, coffee, and fresh baked snacks available. Others just sell oil and car products and have a mechanic on site. Two people could run a similar business very differently. That’s not to say one is wrong and the other is right. They just have different business plans and different ways of doing business.

At every Amway meeting I attended the sack of shit Platinum would brag about Amway’s “proven” system. The old guard had blazed the trail for new IBO’s. They’d made the mistakes. The knew what worked. All we had to do was follow their “proven” system and we’d all succeed in Amway and be bazillionaires like the Diamonds.

Amway’s “proven” system is a system set up for failure. 99% of IBO’s do not make money in Amway. Most quit Amway within a couple of years - there’s only so long you can go into debt and keep losing money. 99% failure rate. Yup that’s a “proven” system for sure!

So what were some of the things this “proven” Amway system consisted of?

1. Duplicate your upline. - Yup that’s a good one seeing as how most of the people in our upline didn’t own their own homes and were renters we really want to step back in life and our lifestyle and become renters too. Good one. Mostly duplicating your upline meant attaching yourself to their ass, going where they went, observing, and doing what they do. Fuck that. Nobody in our upline was going places I wanted to go. Namely the poorhouse.

2. Submit to upline. In other words become a brainwashed slave and do whatever they tell you to do. Scrub their kitchen floor. Mow their lawn.

3. Buy at least 100 PV of Amway products each month. Cha ching. $300 minimum. Most ambots buy more than that.

4. Attend all Amway meetings. Gotta keep with the brainwashed flock and spend all your time with them. Brainwash patrol! Can’t spend free time with friends and family the way you used to because they might knock some sense into you and tell you to get out of this pyramid scheme. Cost for Amway meetings fluctuates. For living room board plans at someone’s house usually free. For other Amway meetings $10 to $25 to buy a ticket to get in.

5. Buy Premier Membership to WWDB. That’ll cost $50/month. Very important because well shit I don’t know why it was important. It gives you a web portal to your own Amway shopping page so you can refer customers to go directly there and buy Scamway products. You can also access their web page to buy tickets to major Amway functions and hotel rooms. You also get a small deduction buying Amway books and CD’s. You can also view your Amway statements from here too I think. There is also a calendar and contact list so you can keep track of your customers and events. The problem is if you put any customer information in here WWDB spams them. Is this worth $50? Hell no! But it is part of Amway’s “proven” system.

6. Sign up for Communikate. Cha ching. About $35/month. Dumb ass voice mail system. Every ambot is packing a cell phone that probably has this kind of feature as part of their plan. Those dumb fucks have been brainwashed to believe that Communikate is a personal assistant. Yeah bring me a Pepsi! Personal assistant gotta be good for something.

7. Attend all major Amway functions. Cha ching cha ching. Tickets, transportation, hotel, food. Plan on about $1000/couple depending on how far you have to travel and if you’re driving or flying. Maybe double it. How about skipping this “proven” system. Its just a bullshit brainwashing session where these Amway assholes gloat about their riches and don’t give any useful information about how to make money in Amway. That’s because its a scam! Very few scammers are good enough to climb to the top of the pyramid!

8. Listen to at least 15 minutes of an Amway CD every day all the better for brainwashing! Also read at least 15 minutes of an Amway recommended book daily. That’ll set back most ambots at least $25/week.

9. Show the Amway board plan at least twice a day to new prospects. Yeah good luck with that. Most prospects will tell you they’re not interested when they hear its Amway. Others will tell you to fuck off. Its very difficult to find people who will take time to listen to the plan.

10. Bring a new prospect every week to an Amway meeting. People will tell you they’ll come to the meeting just to get you off their back but at showtime they’re nowhere in sight. Stood up! Get used to it if you’re in Amway. Sane people don’t want to listen to some lying scamming piece of shit Amway cult leader for two or three hours. They especially are pissed off if they’re lied to ahead of time and told the meeting is only an hour. Its just about impossible to get someone to come to an Amway meeting.

11. Get 10 customers who will consistently buy $200 worth of Amway products each month. Yeah that’ll really happen! Customers really want to buy overpriced shitty products!

12. Invest all your profits back into your Amway business buying more tools and Amway products. What profits???!!!!

13. Be a dreamer. If you dream you can have it your dreams will come true. Yup ambots sit around with their thumbs up their asses dreaming of their future riches thanks to Amway.

14. Sign up a new IBO every month. Again a nearly impossible feat. Amway’s bad reputation with aggressive salespeople and known for its cult ties and being a pyramid scheme precedes itself. Smart people stay away. Some ambots might be able to occasionally sign up a new IBO but they usually do nothing or quit within months.

Just today I had a visitor come to my blog after searching for “how to get Amway off your ass”. I see lots of similar searches none that are complimentary. There are a lot of people out there who don’t like Amway for one reason or another.

Amway’s “proven” system involves things that are near impossible for ambots to accomplish. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some more of the things we had to do as part of Amway’s “proven” system for failure but that’s the general gist.

And from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

Bring Prospects or Be Abused

At every Amway meeting the Platinum cult leader would ride all the IBO’s asses about being failures because no one was bringing new prospects to the meetings.

Well that’s what happens when you’re part of a pyramid scheme. Its not easy finding people open-minded to being ripped off!

Ambot spent hours each week trying to convince friends, family, and people he’d just met to come to a meeting. Infrequently after a few hours of being hounded, someone would break down and agree to see the board plan, but then they wouldn’t show up and spend weeks or months avoiding calls from Ambot.

Years later one of our formerly good friends still refuses to have anything to do with us thanks to the Amway. He actually came out and met some ambots and didn’t like them. Join the club!

I had stopped going to Amway meetings. I refused to show up anywhere that the fucking asshole Platinum was going to be. Horrible evil cult leader that he was spreading negativity, draining the bank accounts of people beneath him in the Amway pyramid, and destroying relationships. Yeah just the kind of sack of shit everyone wants to have in their lives! The day that bastard rots in hell can’t come soon enough for me!

Ambot had been hounding a friend for months to come an Amway cult meeting and our friend had been putting him off one excuse after another. Well no kidding. The only people who want to go to Amway meetings are ambots. People who don’t want anything to do with the Amway cult are not interested. It was no big surprise that our friend failed to show up at our house and go with Ambot to the Amway cult meeting. He wouldn’t answer his phone either when Ambot called to find out where he was. The 8 o clock Amway witching hour was nearing and the guest Ambot had bragged to everyone he was bringing was MIA. Ambot begged me to accompany him so I gave in and for the first time in about 6 months I went to the cult meeting.

By this time I had done research into the Amway cult and was reading first hand accounts of other Amway victims. They all had the same story we had. Their cult leaders told the same lies I heard. Some former cult followers had suffered severe financial losses including bankruptcy and houses being foreclosed. Some marriages had disintegrated. Forearmed is forewarned. I caught the cult leader in all kinds of lies.

A meeting room had been booked at a local hotel and the upline Emerald was the speaker. Everyone had to fork over $10 to the cult leader to show up and be lied to. We came in and sat down. We watched the Platinum sack of shit circulate the room greeting people. He avoided saying hi to us even though he walked right past us a number of times seeing as how we’d chosen aisle seats. Snubbing us! Like I give a shit that someone I don’t like won’t talk to us. Oddly enough Ambot began to chuckle and I asked him what was so funny.

“He’s refusing to talk to us because I didn’t bring anyone to the meeting.”

That was the cult leader’s way of punishing the downline. Refusal to acknowledge them. Ostracization. Shunning.

I was happy with that. We don’t often get that lucky that the pompous sack of shit doesn’t want to talk to us.

So fuck you asshole. It really hurts my feelings when you won’t talk to me. NOT!!!!!

Amway Salespeople Versus Timeshare Salespeople

Anyone who has spent any time in grocery stores, shopping malls, Barnes & Noble, or coffee shops has seen them crawling out of the wood work. Scum of the earth Amway rats hell bent on scamming people out of their money and destroying lives.

Anyone who has spent time in popular tourist destinations has seen them crawling out of the woodwork, stalking you in hotels, beaches, and sidewalks. Salespeople who are pushing timeshare condos.

Well mabye Amway salespeople too!

Timeshare salespeople must be people persons. It takes a lot of gall to follow and strike up conversations with people who are on their way somewhere who don’t want to be bothered with offers of free or greatly reduced prices on shows, attractions, dinners, etc.

Amway salespeople don’t necessarily have to be good with people because the Amway cult leaders claim you’re not really selling anything. You’re just buying from your own store and teaching others how to do the same thing and everyone will be rich. No one in Amway has anything free to give away or anything with greatly reduced prices that would be a good deal to purchase so the ambots have to figure out another scam to reel in victims.

If you are in a popular tourist destination you do not have to go out looking for a timeshare salesperson. They will find you.

No matter where you are in the world and even though you’re not looking for an Amway salesperson, they’ll crawl out of the sewer and find you anyway.

Timeshare salespeople have an angle to trick potential buyers into attending a sales pitch meeting. Usually it involves giving something away for free or at least the illusion of doing so.

Amway salespeople trick unsuspecting prospects into attending Amway meetings through a number of lies. Usually has something to do with e-commerce, learning how to start up your own business, tea party, beer bust, movie and popcorn night, make up party. There are endless pitches. All lies.

Time sharesalespeople are hustlers.

Amway salespeople are hustlers and scammers.

Timeshare salespeople usually have condo/hotel rentals available at overinflated prices and one usually has to pay some kind of membership fee to join.

Amway salespeople have overpriced shitty products for sale and if one wants to become an IBO they pay a membership fee.

Timeshare salespeople generally earn a salary and a commission.

Amway salespeople do not earn a salary and rarely make much commission. Amway’s own literature says the average IBO earns $115/month gross. They fail to disclose how much money an IBO has to shell out each month just to earn that $115 and the reality is the net loss is usually hundreds of dollars in the hole each month.

Timeshare salespeople want to get the prospect in front of the head honcho salesperson who is probably one of the best closers on the planet.

Amway salespeople want to get their prospect in front of their Platinum because they have more experience at reeling a gullible person into the scam.

Timeshare salespeople are annoying as hell.

Amway salespeople are worse than annoying as hell.

Timeshare salespeople have a little territory that they stick close to like a desk, shop front, or piece of sidewalk. Disinterested people can keep walking and its unlikely they’ll be pursued by the time share salesperson.

Amway salespeople know no boundaries. They’ll chase you all over town hounding you to attend an Amway meeting or buy shitty Amway products.

Timeshare salespeople usually only spend seconds maybe minutes on a prospect before the prospect gets away or they spot another likely prospect and dump the first one.

Amway salespeople will spend hours begging and pleading a prospect to attend an Amway meeting.

Timeshare salespeople will usually take a “no” from a prospect and move on and turn their attention on the next tourist walking past their station.

Amway salespeople are disbelieving when people say “no” to buying Amway products or attending an Amway meeting. They will argue for lengthy periods of time using every denial tactic they’ve learned from their upline cult leaders.

Timeshare salespeople are generally fairly polite to disinterested parties who have said no. They’re representing a corporation and don’t want pissed off prospects hitting the Internet bitching about their company and the rude behavior of the salespeople.

Amway salespeople are extremely rude to disinterested parties. Amway salespeople will  sneer at anyone who says no and call them losers or broke losers. Amway salespeople don’t give a flying fuck that pissed off prospects hit the Internet bitching about their rude antics and Amway products. Amway the corporation doesn’t give a flying fuck either about the bad image their salespeople give them.

Timeshare salespeople probably have some luck persuading prospects to attend a meeting. Some people don’t mind sitting in a room getting the old timeshare pitch, turning them down, and walking off with whatever prize has been given to them. Maybe its worth a couple of hours of their time sitting inside a high pressure sales meeting to get free tickets into Disneyworld.

Amway salespeople don’t have a lot of luck persuading prospects to attend Amway meetings. Amway’s bad reputation precedes them. Its hard to find people open to being scammed in a pyramid scheme. Sitting through several hours of a meeting listening to some cult leader spout off his bullshit is not everyone’s idea of fun especially if there’s nothing in it for them for wasting their time.

If you go to a timeshare meeting and act disinterested the salesperson may up the ante of the prizes they’re offering.

If you go to an Amway meeting and act disinterested the ambots will mock you.

If you tell a timeshare salesperson that you’re unemployed, have poor credit, no money in the bank, etc they will lose interest in you real fast because they know you won’t get through the credit check portion of their application.

If you tell an Amway salesperson that you’re unemployed, have poor credit, no money in the bank, etc they will jump all over you and tell you that now is the perfect time for you to get on board with Amway and how rich you’re going to be in a few months.

Sometimes you might find a timeshare condo that you like and want to purchase it.

You will never find an Amway product that you like and no intelligent human being would ever get involved in Amway as a salesperson without brainwashing tactics put upon them by an Amway cult leader.

In summation its easier to escape a rabid timeshare salesperson than a deranged Amway salesperson.

Bogus Amway Sales Jobs

I’ve seen comments from people that they’ve applied for sales jobs listed on places like Craigslist only to find they’ve been sucked into an Amway IBO scammer posting a fake job ad.

On Craigslist their terms of use specifically state that MLM reps can not be posting there but they do anyway and Amway IBO’s are not the only guilty party but they are the majority of the offenders. Usually these ads get flagged off if they blatantly mention the MLM or one of the products which might alert some job seekers who it is.

It must really suck if you’re looking for a legitimate sales job and respond to an ad and get called for an “interview” at a local coffee shop only to be nailed with an Amway board plan presentation.

Finding a job is tough enough without these fucking MLM scammers trying to snipe you into their pyramid scheme.

Ambot and I noticed a sign posted on a telephone pole. I don’t recall the exact working but it said something to the effect of be your own boss and run a health, sports, and beauty business. Even though it was crudely painted it included a toll free number (Communikate?) to give it an air of authenticity. We’re pretty sure it was Scamway.

Likewise people who post resumes on various job sites end up getting trolled by MLM participants who are trying to “grow their business”. In fact you don’t even need a resume up you an just post an ad for something to sell on Craigslist and some demented ambot might phone to pretend they’re interested in buying and then spring an Amway presentation on you.

These ambots have to keep coming up with new ideas on how to trick prospects.

The thing with becoming an Amway Independent Business Owner is its just a fancy term for a commissioned salesperson. Amway is just a sales job no matter how much the upline tries to bullshit you that its not selling. I guess they were kind of right. Its more self consuming Amway products instead of selling them. But to succeed in Amway you do have to be good at sales, either selling the board plan and signing up IBO’s into your downline or selling overpriced substandard products and have the art of selling down to convince buyers this shit is really high quality.

Its like a vicious circle sales job cycle. Amway sells products to gullible salespeople and tells them to recruit other salespeople to sell the Amway products. Once the ambot has exhausted all friends and family and random people in the mall they turn to walking the neighborhood and leaving ads in people mailboxes, posting signs on telephone poles, or posting bogus sales job ads on Craigslist. Once they get a live prospect the Ambot assholes get the recruit in front of their cult leaders to close the sale. That’s because - according to the upline - people on the lower levels of the Amway pyramid are too stupid to close a sale when it comes to bringing in new cult members.

Bogus business. Bogus sales jobs ads. Yup it all seems to go hand in hand with Amway.

What Can Our Lying Platinum “Teach” Us?

Our sack of shit Platinum often said if we do what he teaches we’re going to make it real big in Amway. Then he would follow that by saying there are guys in the room who are not successful because they don’t do what he teaches.

I would be one of about 5 women who regularly showed up to Amway meetings, the regular group meeting in someone’s living room, and I don’t consider myself a guy. The Platinum is a male chauvinist pig so as far as he’s concerned no woman is going to make it in Amway. Not without a man leading the way. Three women in the room were single. Maybe more depending if some of the occasional IBO’s showed up for a living room meeting or not.

The Platinum never taught us anything useful. The only thing he taught was resentment but I would hardly call that useful. His meetings were always the same. They started at 8pm and he’d spend an hour talking about himself and the negative stuff going on in the news - businesses closing down, recession, that sort of thing. It would take him at least an hour to say something to the effect that this is what he does for a living. Here its important to point out that Amway is hardly what he does for a living. He has a real job, the kind that people like him poke fun at - J.O.B. Just Over Broke. Instead of taking the more common sense route of saying the right job can change someone’s life, he taunts people who have jobs. Asshole you’re in that category. Some of us in the room don’t have jobs because we already own our own business. Hmmm. Maybe I better take another look around the room. There was only one other guy in the room who owned his own business. And yes I am using the past tense. About a year after we got out of Amway we noticed his store had been taken over by another business. Too bad for him. I was in there once and noticed his prices were on the high side. He learned the wrong things from Amway!

OK so get back on track. The sack of shit talks about himself and all the negative news items he’s picked up recently. He bores us to death for at least an hour under the false impression we actually give a shit listening to him. Then he finally mentions Amway. It takes him an hour to get there because its really embarrassing to admit to anyone that you’re in Amway. He wants to spend the first hour trying to get any new prospects in the room to know him and what he’s all about and to get them to think he’s a really nice guy. I can tell any newbies that he’s a lying sack of shit and Jim Jones is his idol and he’ll brainwash you too if you hang around long enough. I don’t have to take the roundabout way of wrapping that one up. Then the flash cards come up with the Amway business plan on them. Depending on whose flash cards he’s using and if they’re old ones he’ll bitch out the ambot that brought them and tell them he needs to buy new ones. Invest in your business! Invest in the tool scam so the upline Diamonds can make more money! To make his point he’d take a black felt pen and write all over the flash cards effectively destroying someone else’s property because that’s the kind of thing this miserable asshole does. He has no respect for other people or their property. Right back at you asshole. I have no respect for a lying sack of shit.

This whole bullshit session takes two and a half to three hours. The Platinum keeps getting sidetracked and going off on some rant or spending more time talking about himself. The fucker loves the sound of his own voice!

So what exactly did he teach us other than resentment? According to the flash cards he taught us that if we eat one Amway food bar each day and drink one Amway beverage a day and find two other people and teach them to do the same then we’ll make a thousand bucks a month in commission from Amway. If we find 6 people to eat and drink the Amway shit then we’ll make $100,000/year. If they find 6 people and they find 6 people and so on and so on we’ll be making around a million dollars a year and those people beneath us will be taking our spots in the $100,000 and $500,000 range. Everyone will get rich!

Yup eat and drink your way to Amway success!

If you’ve ever had to drink the XS piss water or eat a nasty shitty Amway food bar then you’ll know it is really hard to convince other people to buy this shit no matter how much you lie to them about the health benefits. The high price for these horrible tasting products is a huge obstacle to overcome.

People can go out and buy a box of oranges or persimmons for ten bucks and get better health benefits, either by eating the fruit as is or putting it through the juicer. Save money feel better eating/drinking a natural product.

As for the people in the room who were doing what the sack of shit Platinum taught they weren’t making money. The odds are stacked against them. Less than 1% of IBO’s will make money according to Amway’s literature. The sack of shit can rant at them all he wants about doing what he teaches and they’ll become rich but it ain’t going to happen. According to the Platinum just by virtue of showing up for the meeting the ambots in the room were winners and successful. That was another one of his teachings about how we better show up for every one of his meetings or face his wrath.

The ambots in the room change over every few months or so but I know the Platinum’s lies are still the same. He still can’t teach anyone to be successful in Amway. That would suggest:

1. he can’t teach worth a shit
2. the people in the room can’t learn worth a shit
3. or its a mathematical impossibility for the majority of IBO’s to become successful in Amway.

The pompous sack of shit would take the “2” option but that’s because he has such a high opinion of himself.

When it comes to Amway I didn’t get no learning from that bastard!

Amway Cult Warning Signs

I was trying to find a web site that might help spouses, family, and friends of Amway cult followers.

The Cult Information Center is a British group but they provide a page that has links to groups worldwide that assist people in dealing with cult exit strategies and help for families. http://www.cultinformation.org.uk/help.html

While I was there I clicked on a link for the Cult Clinic and Hotline. They’re in New York and run by the Jewish Board of Family and Children’s Service but they’re non denominational and offer assistance to anyone in the United States who requires their help.

Here is their list of signs that an organization has cult characteristics:

1. Has there been strong pressure for me to join or to stay?
2. Am I being pressured to recruit others?
3. Are my doubts and questions discouraged, avoided, or even forbidden?
4. If I’m critical of the group, am I told there’s something wrong with me?
5. Do I not have an opportunity to verify information provided by the group?
6. Am I expected to reveal fears and secrets?
7. Does the group’s leadership dictate how I should act, think, or feel?
8. Do I not get enough sleep now or have enough time to devote to outside pursuits and responsibilities?
9. Am I made to feel fear or guilt when I don’t do exactly as my leader or elders in the group told me?
10. Have I lost my old friends?
11. Have I missed important family occasions because I was encouraged to be with fellow group members instead or given an urgent task to complete?
12. Is there a belief that the leader has special powers?
13. Have I been promised things by the group that have yet to materialize?
14. Was I told that joining this group was my only path to happiness, peace, God, or even prosperity?

Wow! Talk about summarizing our Amway experience!

Here’s my answers:

1. The pressure was on to join. “Now is the time to sign up with Amway. Its about to explode on the Internet. You want to get in now.” Seeing as how we’d already tried Amway once before and I wasn’t interested in losing money again I suggested to Ambot that we wait and see how his friend Captain Fuck Up made out. If that fuck up was doing good after a few months then that might be proof to me that things are different in Amway. Ambot was mad. He’d already been sneaking around meeting the cult leaders and had all the canned responses. We were going to miss out BIG if we didn’t sign up now and get in while the getting in was good. After a few months the pressure was on to stay. “You can’t quit now. Not when success is right around the corner and you’re about to go really BIG!”
2. Ha ha! That goes without saying. That’s what Amway is about. Recruiting other IBO’s and tricking suckers into going to Amway meetings.
3. Absolutely! “Never question upline!”
4. That’s another big yes. “Don’t speak negative!” unless of course you're an unchristian, negative dream stealer who is a loser with a J.O.B. and worse than that a broke loser!
5. “Don’t search on the Internet. Its full of lies and you can’t believe anything you read there.”
6. Yes. Your upline wants to know EVERYTHING so they can use it against you later on.
7. Another big yes! You’re told to dress in business attire, drive high end vehicles, carry cell phones, do whatever it takes to project a successful image. Fake it till you make it!
8. Sleep! Ha! “You’ll have time to sleep when you’re dead!” Amway meetings start at 8pm. Then there are meetings after the meeting. You’ll be lucky to get to bed by 1am but usually later than that. Forget about anything else in your life that doesn’t have anything to do with Amway.
9. Oh yes! You must ask upline’s permission before doing anything! If you don’t you will be the subject of ranting and raging at the next Amway meeting. Plus you’ll be harassed with phone calls, text messages, and emails criticizing you for doing your own thing. The Amway cult leader is a person to be worshipped and feared.
10. Yes, your old friends don’t want nothing to do with you anymore because you’re prospecting them to come to Amway meetings, sign up as an IBO, or buy overpriced Amway shit. They’ll avoid you like the plague!
11. Family occasions? Forget about them if there’s an Amway meeting scheduled or someone upline wants you to drop everything and kiss their ass.
12. Yes. Upline were displayed as having these magical powers to be successful in Amway and if you spent time with them and learned from them and duplicated them you would have these secret magic powers too.
13. Ha, ha. Makes me laugh again! Another big yes. Amway is full of promises (broken ones) and dreams (shattered ones).
14. Yes. We were going to have Amway residual income rolling in for the rest of our lives. And if that didn’t happen we were going to be nicer people!

Amway Sex?

Can you believe that someone did a search for Amway sex and ended up on my blog?

I bet this blog is about to get a whole lot more hits just because I have a topic about sex!

I remembered Eric Scheibeler bringing sex up in his book Merchants of Deception in describing how the upline controlled that too, so I took a look at my copy and searched out some passages to refresh my memory and am sharing them here.

Here are some passages written about the Yagers:

The most bizarre of Dexter’s teachings, in my opinion, were his sex talks. Remember, as you read this, that neither the general public nor the average distributor were ever made aware of what went on at these leadership meetings. By the time people got to these meetings, they had been well indoctrinated. Also, remember that these meetings were normally started with a prayer. At one of our first few high-level leadership level meetings, very late at night, Dexter decided to share a business secret that a woman Diamond had passed on, regarding the success she and her husband enjoyed. The advice he passed on to the ladies present concerned how to relate to their husbands. The advice was to “screw their brains out.” People were actually taking notes!

On another occasion, we were with Dexter in a large, Italian restaurant that had many other people, besides the near thirty in our entourage. We ordered and all of us that were present huddled close to Dexter to hear whatever wisdom he was going to share. Now, picture how odd this must have looked! We were sitting in a restaurant, and we were huddled around Dexter, and the other patrons were trying to figure out who he was and hear what he was saying. He must have looked like a celebrity! He was wearing enough diamond and gold jewelry to look like a short, white Mr. T. There was a hush in the room. For this sex analogy, he chose an attractive, young, Emerald woman sitting near him. He asked her what her name was, and if the guy with her was her husband. She responded to both questions. He looked her right in the eye and asked her if she really enjoyed sex. Then he explained how sex is an important thing and went on and on about some point that I can’t even recall.

At the last Go Diamond Seminar we attended, it seemed that nearly the entire function revolved around sex. At one point, the women were brought to a separate room and given specific direction, but there were many speakers that addressed the entire group on this topic. Dexter had had a stroke and felt it was important to advise us that it had occurred on a night when Birdie had refused him sex. (I cannot remember what the point was that time.)

Oh goody. An Amway meeting that is all about sex. Now everybody knows what they have to look forward to if they stick around long enough and throw enough money at this scheme.

Here’s a passage that I’m guessing is discussed at “men only” meetings.  

“Scientific surveys have documented that your wife is peaking sexually at about 1:00 p.m., and you missed it by being at work. Had you been a retired Emerald or Diamond, you would have been home more often to capitalize on this scientific phenomenon.”

I didn’t spend a lot of time on the Internet searching for that one but you’d think I could have found at least one scientific study to back it up if it was true so I think I’ll just write that off as another whopper told by the Amway professional liars. Like we need any further proof that’s all men ever have on their minds!!!???? Whether or not its lie is secondary to the real message that they’re insulting their downline because they haven’t reached a level where they can be lazing around the house all day instead of being at work.

Here’s another passage from Eric’s book:

I did not know the other advice that the ladies were given until years later. The women in our organization were told what they needed to do to become Diamond ladies was support their husband and be a good Proverbs woman. Each woman was told never to refuse her husband sex, for any reason. These women were even told to dress up and put on fresh make-up to greet their husbands when they would come home at one or two o’clock in the morning. At two different meetings, a member of our upline told the women that they were to always look good, as they were their husband’s “best ornament.” This offended all those women who still had the capacity to think clearly–but what could they say?

AAACCCKKK!!!!!! Have those male chauvinist pigs been watching The Stepford Wives a few times too many? Yeppers - that offends all women who have not been brainwashed by the cult. Their brainwashed husbands would look at that passage and say, so what’s wrong with that.

One last passage to back up how the upline fuckers (in more ways than one!) demanded to know every detail about their downline’s life. Now we all know the reason why people have so much difficulty sponsoring IBO’s. It has nothing to do with prospects who are not interested in getting involved with Amway. It has to do with the sex lives of the IBO’s!

There seemed to be no level at which they would stop invading your personal life. A fellow Emerald told Kathy and an Emerald in our group that she and her husband would ask a couple they were counseling how many times a week they were having sex. A couple needed to really have a good relationship to sponsor effectively. Privately, Molly told Kathy that if Zack came home at three in the morning and wanted sex, he was going to get it. After all, look how he provided for them. It sounded far too much like a business deal when Kathy later revealed this to me. At the same time that the women were getting this advice, Zack was holding a men’s leadership meeting and advising that he did not know how a woman could want to have sex with a ‘wimp.’ A ‘wimp’ was defined as someone not doing all he could to further his Amway business and financial future. One Diamond jabbed the crowd at a large seminar by saying in a half-joking manner, “You may not really love your wife if you don’t go Diamond.”

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Get Your Wife Free!

“Don't you want your wife to come home from work and be there for your children?”

That was one of the “lines” that our Platinum used to tell us to use when prospecting for new IBO’s.

I think its a sexist comment. Who says that all wives have - or want - children? Maybe they don’t want neither - no outside job, no children. Are they excluded from this Amway lament? Who’s to say that women who stay home MUST have children? Our sack of shit Platinum, that’s who. Male chauvinist pig!

Only women who have children are “allowed” to come home from work? Bullshit! That fucking Platinum is just another man who takes women for granted. Somehow the house gets cleaned, the laundry gets done, the garbage gets taken out, the lawn is mowed, the garden is weeded, meals get cooked, the cookie jar is full, etc. Does he think some magical fairy is taking care of all of this?

If the husband and wife are both working then they should have equal responsibility for all house and yard chores. On the other hand if either the husband or wife stays at home while their spouse is the bread winner then logic dictates that the one staying home would be taking care of the bulk of the house work and yard work. If they have children then there is more work involved. Its pretty much a full time job taking care of the house.

But how come the question is never reversed? “Don’t you want your husband to come home from work and be there for your children?”

Nope can’t say as how I ever heard that one from the sexist son of a bitch.

I’ve worked for a few different companies and whenever female employees went on maternity leave they very rarely returned to work - and none of them were involved in Amway. They figured out with their husband whether or not it made economic sense for them to return to work or stay home. A lot depends on which spouse has a better paying job, better education, better chance of earning a living. Or if they’re self employed, is the business income good enough for one spouse not to need to work.

If a husband does not want his wife working an outside job (and be there for the children if they have any) then they’ll figure out a way to do so. This might mean working overtime, a second job, or finding other ways to increase the business income. Despite what some lousy Amway IBO might pressure them into believing, becoming an Amway IBO is not the only solution “to get your wife to come home from work”. More precisely its a bad solution because of the 1% chance of success in the Amway business. Most IBO’s will lose money and then the pissed off spouse ends up going back to work to help get out of debt. 

There are men out there who have been brainwashed by their upline into believing the only way “to have your wife come home from work” is by becoming an IBO and they must accomplish this goal of getting their wife free or else they’re a loser. Totally brainwashed into believing that if their wife has a J.O.B. then he’s not man enough and he’s a loser.  Amway speak discounts any other method where a wife could retire early from her job. My mother worked until she had me and then she never worked a job ever again other than occasionally assisting my father with his business. Neither of my parents were involved in Amway and they retired early. Well, my mother many years before my father!

To any brainwashed ambots who parrot their upline by using the line “don’t you want your wife come home from work and be there for your children” when prospecting, are you a bunch of sexist male chauvinist pigs? Does your Platinum require you to regularly watch The Stepford Wives?

It really pisses me off when I see ambots spouting off about how Amway got their wife free like this is such a huge accomplishment and then throwing it in everyone’s face. Like no other man in the history of earth has ever had a wife who does not work a job.

“I got my wife free. Wouldn’t you like to duplicate me and get your wife free too?” I want to scream everytime I hear some bastard saying this and all I want to do is throw a sexist comment right back at them. The next ambot that uses that line is going to hear this: “Its the man’s job to provide for his wife. Why are you such a fucking loser that you haven’t been doing that all along? Why are you an even bigger fucking loser and involved in Amway?”

OK. I feel better now that I’ve got that one off my chest!

Some of those ambots - read into this our Platinum - have attitudes from another era when it comes to how a wife should be treated. But if you  throw an attitude from another era right back at them then they throw a hissy fit.

I was free from my job before the Amway dark days. So stick that in your hat and smoke it.

A Roomful of Winners

At the Amway meetings I attended everyone was constantly reaffirmed (brainwashed) they were a “winner”. A winner simply by showing up! I was sitting in a roomful of winners! Wow!

Gag!!!!

I was always under the (false?) impression that a winner was a person who wins. Based on my definition I bet I was probably the biggest winner in the room. I was 18 when I won my first prize - a cake in a cakewalk! A cake decorated in jelly beans! And I’ve never looked back. I’ve won countless small prizes in raffles and radio and TV contests like books, concert tickets, and Starbuck’s gift cards. I’ve won $1000 several times on radio contests in the past 10 years. I’ve even won some trips.

How come I never win the lotteries for those million dollar houses???!!!!

I’d say I have a better track record than the rest of the room when it comes to being a winner. I’ve made more money on contests than I ever did in Amway! With no money invested. Just a little time. Not even 10 to 15 hours a week!

Everyone else in the room is a “winner” just because they showed up wearing a business suit.

Oh I get it! The winner is the person who catches the most prospects! The prize is the adoring affection of the Platinum.

No that can’t be right. The winners in this room rarely brought prospects. No adoring affection for any of them. Instead everyone was on the receiving end of the Platinum’s scorn.

The real winners? Those of us who said: “Fuck you. I’m outta here.”

Whatever happened to that roomful of “winners”? Are they winning or are they losing?

I know three of those winners are still hanging in there losing their money and losing their downline. The rest of the winners hopped on the fuck you bandwagon.

An Expensive Social Club

Joecool recently wrote something on his blog to the effect that if you aren’t earning money in your Amway business but are spending lots of money on Amway purchases and tools then its almost like you’ve joined an expensive social club.

I think that statement may apply to Ambot. The more money he spent on Amway products and tools, the more his new friends liked him.

People are busy spending time with friends and family. They’ve busy at their jobs or business owners may end up with some odd hours to accommodate clients. People with school age children are involved in their kids recreational activities or driving them to their activities. Add in grocery shopping, spending time at the gym, walking the dog, and other recreational pursuits. How about quiet time at home reading a book, on the computer, or watching TV. What about the not so fun stuff around the house like cleaning, laundry, mowing the lawn, and keeping the garden weeded. Most people have things to do that fill their days. We lead busy lives just like countless others.

If we weren’t already busy enough after Ambot wanted to do the Amway thing again we were constantly on the go, go, go. Often there would be 2 or 3 board plans in a week that we had to attend even though the same old bullshit we’d heard the night before we listened to again. This would tie us up from 7pm to midnight. Nothing like boring us to death so we’re ready to sleep. Not to mention any other seminars or rallies or other events the upline decided we should attend.

I remember being at a function and listening to a Diamond speaker who was showing the audience “lines” to use to pick up prospects. Say a prospect came up with the objection that “the business” wouldn’t work for them because they don’t have any friends. The Diamond says, then ask them: “How would you like to have some friends?”

The expensive social club reference triggered that memory.

Someone who doesn’t have friends may be interested in joining some sort of social group to meet people. But the purpose of being an Amway IBO is to find other prospects to join up and become IBO's too or to find customers to buy Amway products. So if the only friends you have are people already involved in Amway, there is no chance of getting any of them to sign up to be an IBO or to buy Amway products.

So even though we already lead busy lives Ambot decided we should be even busier. He had a whole new group of friends who were slyly influencing him to leave behind his old friends. He was full of self-importance whenever someone asked him to come over and he’d answer he was busy that night (Amway meeting). Not to mention the overload of text messages and phone calls that he immediately had to deal with from his upline.

I’m not here to suggest social clubs or how to meet new friends. All I want to say is if you are looking for a new group of people to hang out with there are many avenues to try. If one of your reasons to join Amway is to have a ready made group of friends that’s a bad decision. Amway is an expensive social club that will cause you financial and emotional distress. When you quit Amway that's the last you'll ever hear of these new friends fickle bastards that they are. These aren’t the kind of friends you need. This isn't the business venture you need.

Bring Prospects

At every Amway meeting the Platinum cult leader would ride all the IBO’s asses about being failures because we didn’t bring new prospects to the meetings. Well, excuse us for not being able to find people open-minded to being ripped off!

Ambot spent hours each week trying to convince friends, family, and people he’d just met to come to a meeting. Infrequently after a few hours of being hounded, someone would break down and agree to see the plan, but then they wouldn’t show up and spend weeks or months avoiding calls from Ambot.

I hadn’t been to an Amway meeting in months but when an acquaintance of Ambot's failed to show up at our house and go with him to a meeting and wouldn’t answer his phone when Ambot called. Ambot begged me to accompany him so I gave in and for the first time in about 5 or 6 months I went to the cult meeting.

I might add that this one of the last meetings Ambot attended. Yay!!!!

The infamous prayerfest for me to meet another man hadn’t happened yet.

Anyway, a meeting room had been booked at a local hotel and the upline Emerald was the speaker. We came in and found chairs. We watched the Platinum sack of shit circulate the room greeting people. He avoided saying hi to us even though he walked right past us a number of times seeing as how we’d chosen aisle seats. Snubbing us! Like I give a shit that someone I don’t like won’t talk to us. Oddly enough Ambot began to chuckle and I asked him what was so funny.

“He’s refusing to talk to us because I didn’t bring anyone to the meeting.”

That was the cult leader’s way of punishing the downline. Refusal to acknowledge them. Ostracization.

I was cool with that. We don’t often get that lucky that the pompous sack of shit doesn’t want to talk to us.

Qualifying Prospects

This is my opinion: Sponsoring people who don’t like you = bad idea.

Maybe I’m way off base here but I think when recruiting Amway IBO’s its a good idea to leave people off your list who don’t like you, or even more importantly if their spouse doesn’t like you. Leave them alone!!!!

Instead these assholes “counsel with upline” and are told to make a run at the prospect and if the spouse doesn’t go along then do whatever it takes to sign up the prospect anyway. So what if it destroys their relationship, because obviously it was in trouble in the first place if the spouse doesn’t willingly go along with the partner’s participation in the Amway scheme.

I was in an abusive line of sponsorship called World Wide Dream Builders. Their philosophy whenever someone wasn’t interested in Amway or unable to “grow their business” that there must be something wrong with their marriage/relationship. I’d heard that accusation many times. Their standard answer to everything. “Something is wrong with their marriage.” And so what if there was? None of your business anyway. People’s private, personal lives are nobody else’s business. Unless of course you belong to a cult whose acronym would be more aptly suited to read World Wide Destructive Bastards because they destroy people’s lives, destroy marriages, destroy families, and destroy financial security.

I attended enough meetings where the Platinum sack of shit talked about qualifying prospects. “If I don’t like you then I don’t want to do business with you,” he’d often say. And then he added that he moved on to the next prospect. "Next!" I did everything I could to get that bastard not to like me! I even remember overhearing our arrogant prick sponsor parroting the same phrase to Ambot. Liar! That arrogant prick would take anyone he could get. Money, money, money to that greedy destructive bastard. Too bad for him the buck stopped with Ambot. This is one son of a bitch that should have taken his own advice. I’ve known him for years and he knows I can’t stand him and refuse to have anything to do with him. Surely I should have fallen under the “don’t like” category. Lying bastard can’t even follow his own advice.

"Next!"