They sneer at people who have jobs. They put down people who have jobs. They criticize people who have jobs. They demand to know why IBO’s are still working for other people. How come their Amway business isn’t successful so that they can retire.
Amway cult leaders brainwash their followers into believing that J.O.B.s are evil and that nobody who is in Amway should suffer the injustice of working for an employer and make the boss richer. The Amway cult leaders go on and on and on why J.O.B.s should be hated, the boss should be hated, and the coworkers should be hated.
WWDB = World Wide Destructive Bastards and nothing brings the upline Amway assholes more happiness than destroying the lives of their cult followers. All part of the scheme to make them more dependent on the Amway cult leaders.
Soon the ambots duplicate their upline and sneer at people who have jobs and show contempt for people who work for someone else. These ambots hold down jobs themselves. In fact its how they can afford to be in the expensive Amway social club. When we were in Amway no one in our WWDB line other than ourselves owned their own business or were self-employed and very few crossline were self-employed.
Armed with the hateful things they have been brainwashed to think by their Amway cult leaders about people with J.O.B.s it doesn’t take long for their shitty attitude to infiltrate the workplace. Ambots criticize their co-workers and probably their boss because they’re all fucking morons for having a J.O.B. and working for someone else instead of themselves. They probably start complaining about how much they hate their job and they can’t wait until they’re finally free, thanks to Amway.
Better keep your mouths shut or that day might come sooner than you think! And you won’t be financially free when it does!
No workplace needs a fucking Amway IBO bringing the moral down and pissing off the other employees who have to listen to the Amway drunken IBO spout off their brainwashed bullshit.
I was amazed at the number of ambots in our line and crossline who became unemployed. I could certainly understand why their employers didn’t want to keep them around because all ambots have this brainwashed “J.O.B.s Suck” attitude. I never saw any of them find another J.O.B. while we were still in Amway and most unemployed ambots resorted to taking odd jobs wherever they could find them.
One of our friends found out when he hired an ambot that the bastard didn’t get much work done but wanted to be paid top dollar just for showing up and spending huge amounts of time on his cell phone, calls and texts. If that wasn’t bad enough he brought a boom box and blasted out the latest Amway CD from his tools order. That job didn’t last long for him!
I wouldn’t hire that bastard again either!
But then I wouldn’t have hired him in the first place! Never hire an Amway IBO! Their work ethic SUCKS!!!
Then there’s an ambot from Edmonton who showed up on my blog the other day to leave a comment that he can’t wait to be “free” thanks to Amway so he will no longer have to suffer putting up with his coworkers who are all a bunch of assholes. I bet his boss would love to know that! Not to mention knowing that his employee is fucking around surfing the Internet on a government issued computer for an hour (maybe longer, just an hour on my blog) instead of getting his work done. Yup Alberta
This is exactly the type of attitude towards J.O.B.s that ambots are brainwashed by Amway’s cult leaders that often puts them out of work very quickly. Ambots have the attitude that working a J.O.B. is soooooo beneath them but out of the goodness of their hearts they will show up to bless their boss and their coworkers with their presence but you better not expect them to actually do any work while they’re there. Oh they still want the boss to pay them for showing up but they’ll be too busy conducting Amway business to get anything else done.
Is that whole showing up routine. Like when you show up at an Amway meeting and the sack of shit Platinum tells everyone they are winners just by virtue of showing up. And if they religiously show up for the next two to five years then they will become rich beyond their wildest dreams and Amway will send them gazillions of money just because they showed up.
I would never hire an IBO for any job for the reasons I’ve already listed. They’re negative toward work, they waste too much time on the phone of Internet, they want to crank the volume on Amway CD’s, and they have a bad attitude. You pay somebody to get a job done you want them to do the work and not fuck around with texting, phone calls, surfing the Internet, recruiting prospects, selling Amway shit, blasting Amway motivational CD’s, and otherwise being annoying.
Lazy ass ambots need not apply!
Thanks for fighting the good fight. I appreciate your insight and look forward to every new post. Sadly I have a friend deep into the system and can see his life falling apart. I was wondering if someone has an 'english' to 'amway' translator?
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by Anonymous. Glad to hear you're getting something out of reading my blog!
DeleteUnfortunately your friend has been brainwashed into the Amway cult with its own wacko religion, hero worship, and money grubbing greedy bastards. Your friend has been told not to trust anything anyone else says. The only person he can trust is his cult leader because he's the only one who has his best interests at heart.
They're a bunch of sorry sick bastards driven by greed. Your friend will eventually quit. 95% of IBO's quit within 2 years. The rest have dedicated their lives to poverty with dreams of riches that will always be unattainable.
I am not an IBO and I am employed, having said that this website is garbage and is based off of opinions formulated out o bitterness from an experience. Giving claims to an entireity of a business based off of one experience is not only unproductive but only hurting yourself. There are many successful Amway IBO's that are not like what you talk about. I know because I have been around (I guarantee) more Amway ibo's than you have. I have talked to and interviewed hundreds if not thousands of ibo's. Amway is a business like anything else. I love my job but I also love entrepreneurship. The idea of building something (a business) shouldnt be sneered at. You're statements are inaccurate and false. To me you sound like a bitter wife (or used to be wife) that seriously needs to check herself and attitude. The verry fact that you oporate a blog is a type of business, you are also employed I assume. If you were to start making enough money on your blog to replace your current employment would you not enjoy that option? Amway is an opportunity for people to have something that they can build. The problem is how you build your business is up to you since it is yours and other people dont always build a good business plan for themselves and that in turn hurts the people who you employ (downline). But that doesnt meen the system is falty or that it is a cult. You can choose to build your business the correct, healthy way. The reason someone quits amway is they get discouraged. Usualy out of going about it the wrong way and having unrealistic ideas about what it means to build a business and how to go about it. Bottom line you have to be a salesmen. I'm not even talking about finding other people to be in your business I am talking about customers. You have to be able to find customers and learn how to sell product. If everybody would learn those skills first and build a profitable small business based off of just customers first before they bought product themselves or recruited others all the bad smack talk about Amway would be eliminated. You dont find people to join your business and buy stuff, you find people to teach how to find customers and build a small business out of experience of doing it yourself first. A profitable business starts with a firm foundation of assets and liabilities (more assets than liabilities). Enough unproductive smack about "oh poor me, these people are so bad, lets talk badly about them so we can make excuses about our own situation" Be productive, if you want to build a business, build one correctly. I dont care if its amway, real estate, blogging, or whatever. Just stop making excuses and bad mouthing other peoples business's. You are in essence doing the very thing you complain about in your blog.
DeleteHello Anonymous from Ada, Michigan - Is there something about that town that attracts all the liars and bullshitters in this country?
DeleteUm if you actually read my blog you'd know that is about the assholes that we have to put up with in Amway.
I don't put down people who have legitimate businesses. I don't put down real business owners.
I poke fun at Amway assholes who are really commissioned salespeople - as you pointed out in your comments you have to be a good salesman to do anything in Amway. These Amway assholes are under the false impression that they are business owners. Real business owners choose their own products and services, choose their own prices, make up their own rules, etc, etc. Real business owners can't get fired, unlike Amway "business owners" who can get the old heave ho.
I'm going to copy your comments and feature it on an upcoming post so everyone can see it.
Haha this previous post by an Amway enthusiast makes me laugh. Ok just to decompose your "essay": Yes of course most people will have biased approach to the matter, you are also biased towards liking amway and came to the blog already with this opinion. Personal opinions are seldom unbiased, that's why they are called opinions-DUH. Many successful amway retards- now I would like to know how you define success. I mean 50k a year? 100k? Every amway slave throws around these vague statements, but I want to see results.
DeleteOk this is a topic of its own... you "love" entrepreneurship? Who does not? Amway retards are full of "capitalism" and "business" without knowing a thing about it- obviously anyone with a degree in econ or business will know better than to join (i mean real degree, not some shitty community college around the corner) In economic terms, if every slave did a benefit-cost analysis of their membership, they would come heavily behind. Say had they not joined, they would have some shit job, say 30k. 5 yrs in Amway before you have your millions- that is 150k of opportunity cost, plus obviously money spent on cd's, garbage, conventions and I don't know what. And on the side of benefits? Not much, a meager commission check from time to time. Obviously ignoring their consumer surplus from enjoying the "belonging" and membership- I know that would be massive, but as any economist would tell you, we ignore CS from addiction- which is the case.
Obviously we all agree having a business is wonderful. However, what business is Amway really? It creates zero value. It is just passing down shit along a pyramid. Do the people create something? Have some real skill? Benefit the economy or society? No, no, no.. Quite the contrary, I am sure it would be efficient to shut down Amway- more on that later. I, unlike anyone in Amway, am an economist and mathematician. Therefore I believe I can make more valid statements, supported by facts, not vague statements.
I saw a comment down the line that someone working in a fast food is also an amway slave, making $1000 in 3 months. Wow that is a success story! I think this would be also a role model amway follower. No brain, no skills, no education. I make a lot more than that repairing electronics and I only work 2 or 3 hours a week. And I can feel like I am creating some value, recycling electronic waste, etc.
You unknowingly pointed out the biggest weakness of Amway. No it is not deceit, brainwashing etc... however immoral. The secret to selling amway crap is "being a good salesman" Yes but how? This will only be done by being pushy and creating untruthful advertising and hype (done by the slave of course) We have all seen the guys in malls selling pots and pans, or shopping channels (amway cousin) As you would know, you world-class entrepreneur, untruthful advertisement shifts the demand curve, or marginal willingness to pay, to the right... so people pay more for shit they would not normally buy at that price. Resulting in increased producer surplus and decreased CS. All in all, results in dead weight loss. Plus there is of course the DWL from brainwashed slaves being addicted and ripped off by their overlords. Overall, obviously a government policy wiping out amway and other scam companies would be efficient.
In hindsight, you might not actually be a world-class entrepreneur and businessman, Warren Buffet's mentor and the savior of Wall Street, because you have spelling of a 5-year-old with Downs syndrome.
Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by with your very good analysis of the Amway business. It's not for everyone because not all people are liars and scammers. Those who have no ethics and are pushy salespeople may make a little money. That's where Amway's literature comes in handy and shows a fraction of 1% make a little money at the scam. And of course as you pointed out blogs are opinion pieces based on people's own experiences and often they share their information so other people can get both sides of a story in order to make a decision. If anonymous from Ada Michigan doesn't like what he reads here he needs to move on until he finds some other bloggers site more to his liking.
DeleteThey also show contempt for all businesses. Remember someone in our group who owned 3 restaurants. The diamond would draw the plan and then trash this guys business.
ReplyDeleteOur Platinum also trashed other people's businesses. In fact one man in his downline owned an ice cream shop that he ridiculed constantly. Probably ridiculed our business especially since it earns more than the amounts he was throwing at us that is possible to make in Scamway. We were also looking to open another business during this time and he mocked that too even though its in a field that he has no experience in. No interest in either. And of course the start up money for the new business would have taken money away from the Amway scam. But yeah you're right. All ambots do is make fun of every other business out there that isn't Amway.
DeleteRecently I've invested and own a gas station. Trying to imagine what my ambot diamond will say when pulling up for gas. I'm working one day a week. He'll probably say I can't afford to retire. Atleast a gas station has predictable income.
ReplyDeleteColin - I've seen a lot of abandoned gas stations. But generally speaking I think owning a gas station is about the same thing as owning a gold mine! Good luck to you! A legitimate business and not a scam! A foreign concept to Amway ambots!
DeleteThe "retiring" issue is amongst the biggest of the Amway lies (which is saying a lot since there are so many lies). No Diamond ever retires to live forever off residual income. It just doesn't work that way. Since the downline as a rule LOSES money, most will quit and thus there is ever the need for the Diamond to "work" the business and assist in brainwashing the new suckers coming in with tools and functions.
Delete~Dave
Dave - its always a good thing to own a business or investment where money will constantly come in every month with only a minimal amount of work input from the owner operator.
DeleteThe gas station i purchased has been making more money after expenses than most diamonds (no silly meetings) lol. Should be a hoot to see the ambots drop by prospecting. Yes Anna nothing beats owning a legit business and not a scam
ReplyDeleteColin - it should probably do pretty good for you. yeah I'm sure ambots will be dropping by to prospect you cause they'll think you're some minimum wage gas jockey. I know Ambot tried to prospect when we filled up the cars!
DeleteAnna, do u ever tell him not to prospect? Cause it's very embarassing lol
ReplyDeleteColin - it was really embarrassing watching him try to prospect people. I mean just shut the fuck up and don't scam these poor bastards just cause you got scammed you don't need to scam someone else!
ReplyDeleteThis ambot is claiming he is going to be free from his J-O-B on 6/14. I'm curious to see if this page will be deleted on 6/15: http://twitter.com/#!/June14iscoming
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - quitting your job is the easy part. Having income when you're unemployed is not always so easy. Many ambots quit their jobs and go back to work when the Amway income isn't what was promised it would be. Also once your downline starts quitting that's a loss of income. Maybe his wife still works if its a guy judging by the photo. When people are planning to quit a job they pick a day. That's all this guy has done. I'm sure he'll quit his job on 6-14. Whether or not he's out looking for work by the end of 2012 is another story!
DeleteIt's sad how the brainwashing makes these people put blind, unwavering trust into Amway, despite the only "proof" the upline provides being what they SAY is the truth and reality. Folks who are unbrainwashed couldn't imagine quitting the financial security of their job for a pie-in-the-sky song and dance without demanding PROOF, such as tax returns, financial statements, etc.
DeleteKind of reminds me of those "trust exercises" groups will do where someone puts their blind trust into someone standing behind them as they go limp and fall backwards trusting they will be caught. Unfortunately in Amway, the ambots blindly let themselves fall backwards and CRASH!!!! Amway is never there to catch them.
~Dave
Dave - its how cults operate. In Amway its you trust everything your upline says because they're the only ones who have your best interests at heart. Everyone else who isn't in Amway is a stupid negative dream stealer and will tell you lies.
DeleteWell, the twitter feed is still there and he claims he quit a 6 figure job for freedom thanks to Amway! I think that's a bold-faced LIE!
DeleteAnonymous - I bet his 6 figure job won't hire him back in a few months when he comes begging!
DeleteMost people don't quit 6 figure jobs. They retire. And just because someone is retired from a job that doesn't mean they might not start up their own business doing consulting or landscaping or whatever turns their crank. Quitting a 6 figure job to devote their life solely to Scamway? Bad choice! Amway is not freedom. Its slavery.
I don't believe for a moment that person quit a 6 figure job. It's one of the Amway talking-point "lies" they throw out there to try to trick people into thinking "wow, if a person would quit a 6 figure job, then it must be a good opportunity". Bullshit. They either never had a 6 figure job in the first place (most likely scenario) or if they are in one they need the money from that to pay for their expensive Amway hobby. Since one is usually operating at a loss with Amway, there has to be a "real" job that pays the bills.
DeleteMaybe his next Twitter message will be a Sasquatch sighting. I would be more prone to believe that than his other Twitter message.
~Dave
Dave - I highly doubt this lying Amway asshole had a 6 figure job. People don't go around quitting those jobs without a good reason - usually retiring. The Amway assholes on the stage all have low paying jobs that they quit when they "went big" in Scamway. They never have any plastic surgeons on stage saying they quit their job for Amway freedom. And a huge cut in pay!!!!
DeleteOk... So according to Ambots, everyone who has a job is a loser right? Ummmm, so this is how these "business owners" (lmao) treat their supply chain is it? The girl who processes their order, she's a loser! The guy in the warehouse who picks their order, he's a loser! The shipper who loads it on to the truck, he's a loser! The truck driver who delivers their package of overpriced crap to a cross dock, he's a loser1 The cross dock workers, they are all losers! The Fed-Ex guy who picks up the package if inferior garbage and delivers it to the IBO's home (i.e mommy's basement), he' a loser! Yes, they are all losers! Don't these Amway idiots realize that these "losers" are the backbone of our North America.
ReplyDeleteThis is an older post, but I couldn't resist. I manage at a pretty big corporation in hte customer service industry. Your typical soul-less corp job but it pays bills and it isn't so bad all things considered.
ReplyDeleteGot this guy assigned to my team who was way way too eager right off the bat. Talked about how I "seemed like a natural leader" and all this. Now, I consider myself a decent manager, but I also consider myself a decent bullshit detector.
Turns out of course that the guy was an ambot and super quickly the talk turned to how I should start my own business and why I didn't want to be successfull.
In the end we had to fire him for soliciting on company property, after he had tried to talk multiple of my people into putting retirement money into amway crap. He'd have a little shrine to amway in his cubicle, full of nasty energy drinks and this "magic water" that somehow enriches you with oxygen (as opposed to say..breathing).
On top of that, the guy was a hardcore right wing fanatic.
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Ivan - sorry you had the Ambot employee experience. Sadly many ambots lose their jobs exactly the way you described. Pissing off their coworkers with their Amway bullshit and spending too much time taking Amway calls and texts on company time.
DeleteThanks for stopping by with your story!
I'm sorry to hear that you have had such a bad experience with Amway IBO's and their uplines. I would like to inform you that Amway itself is simply the supplier. The business an IBO owns is through them--yes, (and they are paid through the corporation) but what most people don't know is there are many different educational organizations which do the training of the IBOs, teaching them how to own a business and run it well. It sounds like this one is not a good one. For one, I have NEVER heard ANYONE say ANYTHING about how jobs are bad and you should quit yours. In fact, I have been told the exact opposite. They encourage young IBOs to continue in college, in case this doesn't work for them--because it doesn't work for everyone. Yes, the goal is to not be tied down by an hourly job, but to have the freedom to work when you want as much as you want. Of course, though, output is directly related to input.
ReplyDeleteAgain, I am deeply saddened to hear about this and simply hope to inform you about Amway and IBOs.
Thank you for your time reading this,
Paul
Paul - I know everything I need to know about how Amway is run, their priducts and the commissioned salespeople who barely make any money and are brainwashed into thinking they own their own business. It sounds like you haven't been in Scamway too long because you don't have the A speak down too good. Do yourself a favor and get out before you waste any more time and money. Don't believe me? Look at the small print on your Amway literature. Only a small fraction of 1% of ambots make money. That's over 99% failure rate. Guess which side of the law of averages you'll be on. Surely you can find a better business opportunity with a higher return and greater chance of success.
DeleteI've been in Amway 3 months. I have 13 downlines who all have LOTS of kids and so are actually getting kick-back checks on their grocery bills. I've ignored the upline BS about "ALL you SHOULD do," and simply using the system to our benefit. I understand there are illegitimate people out there, but in my case, I've made over $1000 in 3 months. And I still work my job at a fast food restaurant. So yes, there are some wackos, but I'm doing pretty well, and the future only looks bright. I'm going to continue to promote the success I've had to my team, and hopefully we'll all make a little back and maybe we'll do really well. Maybe not. Nobody's lost money yet, so I'm pushing forward. If you don't know how to run a business, don't do this. If you have been scammed, I'm truly sorry for all the people out there who are in with the wrong people. Anyway, I've still got 3 months to go before I have to decide if I want to return my membership, keep my profits and get my money back. Best to all!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - you only lose money when you take the advice or high pressure sales tactics of your upline who want you to buy more Amway products and buy tickets to Amway functions, spend $50/month to have premier WWDB membership that includes a web site, etc. if you do your own thing and don't buy into the Amway tool scam and sell products and make a commission on them it's possible to make a little money. Eventually your customers are going to figure out they're paying premium prices for generic products and your sales will dry up. There are only so many friends and family you can pester! Ou can probably find a better opportunity to make a few bucks. Good luck to you.
DeleteHello anna banana. Id like to know what wrong with a job. It guarantees you a paycheck , frre evenibgs with your family , free weekend , paid vacation and a pension for the 25 years you are retired. A job pays off your mortgage so you end up debt free Now im an ex platinum. Amway guarantees nothing. Amway guarantees working all your free time while you build the business which would be say 10 years. - if you manage to build it Then either you continue or you stop and it crumbles. So its sure you can never retire. Its almost certain you can never make any money either- amway says less than 1 percent do. Its certain you will in fact lose money. So i dont critise amway. But i do say those in a job are much better off. I am sure millions of people will opt for a job each year and be happy to stay at it for their lives while a couple of thousands will opt for amway and give up within a few years.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous. The things you say are true if you are a normal thinking person. There is nothing wrong with a job. Unless you've been brainwashed by the Amway cult. Then everything is wrong with a job. They're hateful things and your boss is evil and so are the coworkers. That's how ambots think. And talk. And act. And usually find themselves out of a job thanks to their attitude.
DeleteThe truth: http://onlinemarketingwithvince.com/index.php/notorious-amway-scam-review-former-ibo-testimonial/#comment-2078
ReplyDeleteAfter an overview of this, I have determined the following:
ReplyDeleteA base judgement is being made about ALL Amway IBOs, without good evidence and justification.
Just because your experience in, or around, Amway was negative, does not mean that everyone else's experience was the same. Because some Islams bombed America, does that make all Islams bad? No. So, just because you had a bad experience, doesn't mean everyone else does. You all sound like a bunch of uneducated, lazy Americans with nothing better to do then make fun of others to feel like you're the bigger person.
I applaud those who fought for the Amway IBOs, because at least they're speaking something more accurate.
I <3 Amway. I am personal friends with IBOs who treat everyone with kindness and respect. They are always willing to help out too! I worked with one for a year and she is about to retire because of Amway. I think Amway is clearly misunderstood by many outsiders!
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