Thursday, June 21, 2012

Who Loves/Hates their Amway Upline?

I had a newly signed up IBO stop by to claim they would never spend “insane” amounts of money on Amway. I had detailed some of the basic monthly expenses each IBO has to shell out in order to keep in good standing with the assholes in their Amway upline in this post.  Oddly enough those “insane” amounts were minimal. CORE IBO’s would spend a lot more than that in purchasing Amway products and tools and sucking up to the assholes in their upline for a few fleeting moments of adoration and praise.

This new ambot also had this to say about their upline:

My uplines are amazing people, patient, never pushy, and very good people.

Ha ha! Excuse me while I PUKE!!!!!!!

I’m sure most ambots say that about their upline when they are new and are being gushed over and love bombed.

One of the first things an Amway ambot is convinced to do is to buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that first month they sign up. And of course every month thereafter. 100 PV = around $300. 100 PV = magical amount to qualify to receive a commission check from Amway. Buying 100 PV of Amway products means a commission check of about $10. If you happen to convince any friends and relatives to buy Amway products you will also earn a commission on those products too. Commission would come in extra PV plus depends on what price you sold the product to your friends to Amway’s wholesale or retail.

Don’t buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that month? You don’t get your puny Amway commission check. Even worse some fucking asshole in your Amway upline will phone toward the end of the month and bitch at you until you pull out the credit card. Still might phone and bitch at you to buy more Amway shit even if you bought at least 100 PV because some asshole further up the Amway upline has a “goal” to meet that month and needs the cult followers to buy more so they can reach whatever level it is they’re after.

How many Amway meetings in a week? That might depend on your upline and how many they have scheduled and what they have decided is a meeting. Sometimes they hold spur of the moment meetings and demand your immediate presence at a coffee shop or a prospect sniping session at the grocery store. Could be between 2 to 5 Amway meetings in a week. Maybe you got something better to do on one of those nights and skip a meeting. Expect a phone call or multiple texts from some asshole in your Amway upline to scold you. Before and after the meeting. Which means your phone will be ringing or text dinging through and beyond midnight. Miss a meeting = punishment from the assholes in your Amway upline.

Not planning to attend an out of town Amway function? Why not? some asshole in your upline demands. You can’t miss this once in a lifetime opportunity. A life changing event. The biggest Amway event of the year. For starters it costs too much. Tickets, transportation, hotel, food, etc etc costs around $1000 maybe more. There’s a lot better things that can be done with that $1000 like your mortgage payment. Take a trip somewhere you really want to go to for starters. I mean who really wants to go to _______ for an Amway brainwashing convention. I’ll let the readers fill in the blanks. Not everyone wants to go to some out in the boonies location for a Scamway meeting. You miss an Amway function or even bring up beforehand that you’re probably not going and you’ll get a shit scolding from the Amway cult leaders.

How amazing, patient, never pushy and good are these people in the Amway upline now!!!! Ha ha ha!!!!

Of course people in Amway are going to be nice to you in the beginning. Then they set to work on brainwashing you. You must learn to be an obedient ambot or face the wrath of hell from the assholes in your Amway upline.

As I pointed on in my answer on the other post even Jim Jones was loving and kind to his parishioners in the beginning when he met them. He wanted to expand the People’s Temple and he knew he could draw more followers by love bombing them instead of revealing to them from the beginning what an asshole he is. He convinced people they were handing their money over to the church and helping the poor and disadvantaged persons and curing the ill. Blessing and helping others. Holy fuck! The assholes in our Amway upline used those words!!!! Jim Jones was a master scammer and Amway cult leaders have learned from his techniques. Jim Jones didn’t start off new recruits ordering them around and demanding slave labor from them. Likewise the assholes in our Amway upline waited a couple months before wanting chores done around their house and demanding that their every whim be catered to. Jim Jones brainwashed people to move to a paradise in Guyana. No different than Amway cult leaders who brainwash their followers to believe they will be living in paradise after 2 to 5 years in Amway. The People’s Temple cult followers found themselves in a jungle that took hard manual labor to keep under control instead of living in a tropical paradise. Amway cult followers find themselves losing money and losing their families and friends instead of the promised luxury life. Jim Jones convinced his followers to drink Kool Aid and cyanide. Those who didn’t obey were shot. Ambots who don’t obey their Amway cult leader are emotionally murdered.   

The Amway cult leaders have a love/hate relationship with their followers. Amway cult leaders are to be loved and worshipped and at the same time feared. Do not dare disobey or there will be hell to pay!

What happened to the loving supporting Amway upline who were gushing all over you and pumping you up to be the next “leader” when you signed up with Amway? Their true colors came out once they had you brainwashed and put you in the middle of their sick love/hate relationship to keep you under control.

Upline Amway assholes are the biggest fucked up two faced phonies around!


  1. My ex upline try to prospect me at a funeral. Total piece of shit he is.

    1. Colin - that's because Amway IBO's are low life bastards who don't give a shit about anyone else or hurting other people in their greedy quest to make their Amway millions. I've been on the receiving end of those Amway assholes myself!

  2. Amen and amen!

    Its funny, once you stop attending the meetings and not showing up, they start ignoring you and tell other "friends" to ignore you as well. I just laughed when they thought they were hurting me when in reality they were doing me a favor!

    The best part? I approached my upline who is making "so much his wife will retire next month" (it always seems to be the next month, or the next one, or the next one...) and told him that if he truly is making "so much money" in this, to let my uncle do his paper work(uncle is an investment banker) and tell him how he is. He agreed and in front of everyone, my uncle did the math on his receipts and income. Turns out, he is making 4k per month but losing 5,100$ per month and per year its a bit more due to trips. Yea, hes really loaded, lol. My uncle literally told him(I shit you not) that if he ever wants to be taken seriously, he needs to stop wearing those cheap button up suits and Ross dress shoes and to stop spiking his hair like a 10year old.

    The funny part, now you see him with his hair down all the time and he barely talks about Amway around me now:D


    1. Sammy - you got off lucky that you're at the ignore stage. With my husband they badgered him for a couple of months with phone calls and texts and then the word was sent down from the sack of shit Platinum to ignore and not have anything to do with us. Its all part of how Amway controls your life.

      I think one of the times Amway was being sued that Robert Fitzgerald had an audit done of Platinums in Michigan from the information provided by Amway and they were losing $900/month. I guess with inflation and all that number is closer to $1100/month according to your uncle's audit! Your upline will never be able to retire his wife as long as he sticks with Scamway. He needs to stop losing money or find a better job or downsize their house or whatever it is they decide to do if neither of them wants her to work.

  3. Up line sponsor was a Med student before Amway. He quit Med school cause his diamond says its a waste of time and money.Hilarious now hes still working construction and promoting Amway. If he stuck with Med school he'd be well off and closer to retirement

    1. Colin - your upline would be making a lot more money as a doctor than in construction that's for sure! He needs to kick the Amway habit. He can make a decent living in construction as long as he's not blowing it on frivilous shit like Amway!

  4. Great comments! My search for feeling disillusioned about Young Living led me to this blog. I too am in the being "ignored" stage by my upline because I cannot attend the convention this summer. It is starting to have a cult-like feel and I am ready to bail.

    1. Hey Anonymous most people figure out Amway is a cult pretty quick when they put up with the love/punishment fluctuations from their Amway cult leaders. Tickets to functions are the main income source for Diamonds. If you don't buy a ticket thats less money in their pocket not to mention the shitkicking and abuse you'll suffer from the assholes in your upline stand your ground. Save your money. Don't go.


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