Amway’s “Proven” System

I joined a retired businessman for lunch the other day and we got to talking about how nobody operates their business the same way. Take a gas station for instance. Some of them are open 24 hours. Others open at 6am and close at 10pm. Some gas stations have grocery stores, coffee, and fresh baked snacks available. Others just sell oil and car products and have a mechanic on site. Two people could run a similar business very differently. That’s not to say one is wrong and the other is right. They just have different business plans and different ways of doing business.

At every Amway meeting I attended the sack of shit Platinum would brag about Amway’s “proven” system. The old guard had blazed the trail for new IBO’s. They’d made the mistakes. The knew what worked. All we had to do was follow their “proven” system and we’d all succeed in Amway and be bazillionaires like the Diamonds.

Amway’s “proven” system is a system set up for failure. 99% of IBO’s do not make money in Amway. Most quit Amway within a couple of years - there’s only so long you can go into debt and keep losing money. 99% failure rate. Yup that’s a “proven” system for sure!

So what were some of the things this “proven” Amway system consisted of?

1. Duplicate your upline. - Yup that’s a good one seeing as how most of the people in our upline didn’t own their own homes and were renters we really want to step back in life and our lifestyle and become renters too. Good one. Mostly duplicating your upline meant attaching yourself to their ass, going where they went, observing, and doing what they do. Fuck that. Nobody in our upline was going places I wanted to go. Namely the poorhouse.

2. Submit to upline. In other words become a brainwashed slave and do whatever they tell you to do. Scrub their kitchen floor. Mow their lawn.

3. Buy at least 100 PV of Amway products each month. Cha ching. $300 minimum. Most ambots buy more than that.

4. Attend all Amway meetings. Gotta keep with the brainwashed flock and spend all your time with them. Brainwash patrol! Can’t spend free time with friends and family the way you used to because they might knock some sense into you and tell you to get out of this pyramid scheme. Cost for Amway meetings fluctuates. For living room board plans at someone’s house usually free. For other Amway meetings $10 to $25 to buy a ticket to get in.

5. Buy Premier Membership to WWDB. That’ll cost $50/month. Very important because well shit I don’t know why it was important. It gives you a web portal to your own Amway shopping page so you can refer customers to go directly there and buy Scamway products. You can also access their web page to buy tickets to major Amway functions and hotel rooms. You also get a small deduction buying Amway books and CD’s. You can also view your Amway statements from here too I think. There is also a calendar and contact list so you can keep track of your customers and events. The problem is if you put any customer information in here WWDB spams them. Is this worth $50? Hell no! But it is part of Amway’s “proven” system.

6. Sign up for Communikate. Cha ching. About $35/month. Dumb ass voice mail system. Every ambot is packing a cell phone that probably has this kind of feature as part of their plan. Those dumb fucks have been brainwashed to believe that Communikate is a personal assistant. Yeah bring me a Pepsi! Personal assistant gotta be good for something.

7. Attend all major Amway functions. Cha ching cha ching. Tickets, transportation, hotel, food. Plan on about $1000/couple depending on how far you have to travel and if you’re driving or flying. Maybe double it. How about skipping this “proven” system. Its just a bullshit brainwashing session where these Amway assholes gloat about their riches and don’t give any useful information about how to make money in Amway. That’s because its a scam! Very few scammers are good enough to climb to the top of the pyramid!

8. Listen to at least 15 minutes of an Amway CD every day all the better for brainwashing! Also read at least 15 minutes of an Amway recommended book daily. That’ll set back most ambots at least $25/week.

9. Show the Amway board plan at least twice a day to new prospects. Yeah good luck with that. Most prospects will tell you they’re not interested when they hear its Amway. Others will tell you to fuck off. Its very difficult to find people who will take time to listen to the plan.

10. Bring a new prospect every week to an Amway meeting. People will tell you they’ll come to the meeting just to get you off their back but at showtime they’re nowhere in sight. Stood up! Get used to it if you’re in Amway. Sane people don’t want to listen to some lying scamming piece of shit Amway cult leader for two or three hours. They especially are pissed off if they’re lied to ahead of time and told the meeting is only an hour. Its just about impossible to get someone to come to an Amway meeting.

11. Get 10 customers who will consistently buy $200 worth of Amway products each month. Yeah that’ll really happen! Customers really want to buy overpriced shitty products!

12. Invest all your profits back into your Amway business buying more tools and Amway products. What profits???!!!!

13. Be a dreamer. If you dream you can have it your dreams will come true. Yup ambots sit around with their thumbs up their asses dreaming of their future riches thanks to Amway.

14. Sign up a new IBO every month. Again a nearly impossible feat. Amway’s bad reputation with aggressive salespeople and known for its cult ties and being a pyramid scheme precedes itself. Smart people stay away. Some ambots might be able to occasionally sign up a new IBO but they usually do nothing or quit within months.

Just today I had a visitor come to my blog after searching for “how to get Amway off your ass”. I see lots of similar searches none that are complimentary. There are a lot of people out there who don’t like Amway for one reason or another.

Amway’s “proven” system involves things that are near impossible for ambots to accomplish. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some more of the things we had to do as part of Amway’s “proven” system for failure but that’s the general gist.

And from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

Who Loves/Hates their Amway Upline?

I had a newly signed up IBO stop by to claim they would never spend “insane” amounts of money on Amway. I had detailed some of the basic monthly expenses each IBO has to shell out in order to keep in good standing with the assholes in their Amway upline in this post.  Oddly enough those “insane” amounts were minimal. CORE IBO’s would spend a lot more than that in purchasing Amway products and tools and sucking up to the assholes in their upline for a few fleeting moments of adoration and praise.

This new ambot also had this to say about their upline:

My uplines are amazing people, patient, never pushy, and very good people.

Ha ha! Excuse me while I PUKE!!!!!!!

I’m sure most ambots say that about their upline when they are new and are being gushed over and love bombed.

One of the first things an Amway ambot is convinced to do is to buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that first month they sign up. And of course every month thereafter. 100 PV = around $300. 100 PV = magical amount to qualify to receive a commission check from Amway. Buying 100 PV of Amway products means a commission check of about $10. If you happen to convince any friends and relatives to buy Amway products you will also earn a commission on those products too. Commission would come in extra PV plus depends on what price you sold the product to your friends to Amway’s wholesale or retail.

Don’t buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that month? You don’t get your puny Amway commission check. Even worse some fucking asshole in your Amway upline will phone toward the end of the month and bitch at you until you pull out the credit card. Still might phone and bitch at you to buy more Amway shit even if you bought at least 100 PV because some asshole further up the Amway upline has a “goal” to meet that month and needs the cult followers to buy more so they can reach whatever level it is they’re after.

How many Amway meetings in a week? That might depend on your upline and how many they have scheduled and what they have decided is a meeting. Sometimes they hold spur of the moment meetings and demand your immediate presence at a coffee shop or a prospect sniping session at the grocery store. Could be between 2 to 5 Amway meetings in a week. Maybe you got something better to do on one of those nights and skip a meeting. Expect a phone call or multiple texts from some asshole in your Amway upline to scold you. Before and after the meeting. Which means your phone will be ringing or text dinging through and beyond midnight. Miss a meeting = punishment from the assholes in your Amway upline.

Not planning to attend an out of town Amway function? Why not? some asshole in your upline demands. You can’t miss this once in a lifetime opportunity. A life changing event. The biggest Amway event of the year. For starters it costs too much. Tickets, transportation, hotel, food, etc etc costs around $1000 maybe more. There’s a lot better things that can be done with that $1000 like your mortgage payment. Take a trip somewhere you really want to go to for starters. I mean who really wants to go to _______ for an Amway brainwashing convention. I’ll let the readers fill in the blanks. Not everyone wants to go to some out in the boonies location for a Scamway meeting. You miss an Amway function or even bring up beforehand that you’re probably not going and you’ll get a shit scolding from the Amway cult leaders.

How amazing, patient, never pushy and good are these people in the Amway upline now!!!! Ha ha ha!!!!

Of course people in Amway are going to be nice to you in the beginning. Then they set to work on brainwashing you. You must learn to be an obedient ambot or face the wrath of hell from the assholes in your Amway upline.

As I pointed on in my answer on the other post even Jim Jones was loving and kind to his parishioners in the beginning when he met them. He wanted to expand the People’s Temple and he knew he could draw more followers by love bombing them instead of revealing to them from the beginning what an asshole he is. He convinced people they were handing their money over to the church and helping the poor and disadvantaged persons and curing the ill. Blessing and helping others. Holy fuck! The assholes in our Amway upline used those words!!!! Jim Jones was a master scammer and Amway cult leaders have learned from his techniques. Jim Jones didn’t start off new recruits ordering them around and demanding slave labor from them. Likewise the assholes in our Amway upline waited a couple months before wanting chores done around their house and demanding that their every whim be catered to. Jim Jones brainwashed people to move to a paradise in Guyana. No different than Amway cult leaders who brainwash their followers to believe they will be living in paradise after 2 to 5 years in Amway. The People’s Temple cult followers found themselves in a jungle that took hard manual labor to keep under control instead of living in a tropical paradise. Amway cult followers find themselves losing money and losing their families and friends instead of the promised luxury life. Jim Jones convinced his followers to drink Kool Aid and cyanide. Those who didn’t obey were shot. Ambots who don’t obey their Amway cult leader are emotionally murdered.   

The Amway cult leaders have a love/hate relationship with their followers. Amway cult leaders are to be loved and worshipped and at the same time feared. Do not dare disobey or there will be hell to pay!

What happened to the loving supporting Amway upline who were gushing all over you and pumping you up to be the next “leader” when you signed up with Amway? Their true colors came out once they had you brainwashed and put you in the middle of their sick love/hate relationship to keep you under control.

Upline Amway assholes are the biggest fucked up two faced phonies around!

The Amway Ambot Shit List

Once an ambot has had enough of being love bombed to death by Amway cult members and losing money in the Amway pyramid scheme and quits Scamway, they now find themselves on the Amway ambot shit list.

The Amway cult is a fucked up religion that worships money. They lure in prospects with promises of riches and hype them up to believe that all their dreams of material possessions will come true thanks to Amway and that in 2 to 5 years they will be rolling in dough with gazillions of dollars in residual income every month and they’ll never have to work again.

The Amway cult offers instant friendship. And extremely affectionate instant friends. Demon friends! Over the top ambots who hang on to your every word with dumb grins on their faces as if you are the most fascinating person they’ve ever met, hand out overly zealous compliments, and want to hug hug hug! And squeal and scream whenever they see you like you’re a long lost friend they haven’t seen in 20 years instead of some ambot they ran into last night at an Amway cult meeting.

Eventually most ambots wise up and quit the scam. Had enough of the fucking Amway pyramid scheme!

Quitting means stop buying overpriced Amway products = no PV for the ambot or any of the assholes in their Amway upline. Oooohhhh!!!!!!! That really pisses off those upline Amway assholes! Angers them to no extent. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing over money to them. They only like you for your money and how much money they can make off you. There’s gotta be some reason behind why they put on that phony ass “I love you” routine.

The ambot stops attending Scamway meetings. That means less money under the mattress of some asshole in the Amway upline. Whoever it is - Diamond or Emerald - who is not making as much money as he’d like at the last cult meeting will ride the ass of the cult leaders in his downline. “Where’s my money!!!! Sign up more ambots!!! I need a fucking Mercedes!!!!”

Nope the ambot who quit won’t budge and won’t hand over no more cash. They’re realized they’re not making money in Amway. Its nearly impossible to find customers to buy overpriced shitty Amway products. They can’t find prospects to come to Amway meetings much less sign up to be an Amway IBO. They cut their losses and stop.

Maybe they actually liked some of the assholes in their Amway upline and want to remain friends with them. Nope won’t happen. Amway friends are only your friends as long as you’re handing money over to them. You are OUT!!!!

At the next Amway cult meeting the sack of shit Platinum gets the word out to the other cult members to ostracize the ambot who left the flock. They lost their dream. Their dream wasn’t big enough. They didn’t try hard enough. They had an unsupportive wife. They listed to too many dreamstealers. They became negative. Usually a one hour rant in the next Amway cult meeting. Maybe the next few cult meetings. The sack of shit Platinum needs some material to entertain the cult followers for 3 or 4 hours.

About 6 months or so after Ambot finally quit the Amway cult we ran into an ambot at the gas station. Ambot went over and said hi to him while I filled the tank. The ambot smiled at him and said he wasn’t supposed to talk to us.

Gee who would have handed down that command?

The sack of shit Platinum!

Yup. We quit Amway and ended up on the ambot shit list!

I can’t tell you how devastating that is to me! Ha ha ha!

Like I really care that a bunch of fucking assholes from Amway don’t want to associate with us!

So that’s how you end up on the ambot shit list. You quit Amway!

Facebook and Amway

Seeing as how Facebook stock is released for trading today I thought I would bring it up and how I remembered or don’t remember Facebook being talked about at Amway meetings.

I remember at Amway cult meetings our sack of shit Platinum would talk about Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg. I’m a little foggy on what the Amway asshole was spouting off on because he often went off on rants for an hour or so getting distracted constantly and heading off on a new rant as something else to bitch about crossed his mind.

Facebook started trading on the stock market today May 18 2012 at $38 except it shot up to an opening of $42. It hit a high of $45 before settling in around the $40 mark. If its typical of most stocks opening day will hit a high and then it will go down so often its a good idea to wait a few weeks or months before buying.

When Facebook first started many employees were offered stock options so today many of Facebook’s staff are now worth tens of millions of dollars. Many of them are in their twenties. Many of them will walk away and never work again for the rest of their lives.

A concept that is pretty much foreign when it comes to Amway. The only people who don’t have to work for the rest of their lives and have millions of dollars rolling in would be the heirs of the founders.

Ambots go around bragging that Amway made $11 billion in sales last year. I’ve had brainwashed ambots leave those comments on my blog. That’s great for the owners of the company but not so much for employees. Well unless any employees are given profit sharing options. I doubt it because I’ve had employees show up here to say that Amway gives them fuck all in benefits.

Take that 11 billion in sales. That’s not profit. That’s sales. Now comes overhead - cost of production, cost of maintaining Amway buildings, payroll, taxes, etc. I’m not sure how much is leftover after all financial obligations are met for profit for the Amway owners. Maybe a billion or so? The owners ain’t splitting their profit with the lowly employees/IBOs. They’re donating to charity so they can take less of a hit on their personal income taxes and they are living in mansions and jet setting around the world. The heirs are not showing up at Amway functions flogging their wares.

The majority of IBO’s get a commission check of around $10/month from Amway if they bought the required quota of 100PV about $300 worth of Amway products that month. That’s how Amway makes that $11 billion in sales. An army of brainwashed ambots who will keep buying these overpriced products until they get tired of losing money and quit. Its bad enough losing all that money buying Amway products when the same products can be purchased at grocery and drug stores for less, therefore saving money. I might not be getting a $10 commission check from Walmart but if I spend $75 buying the same products that it costs me $300 to buy from Amway then I’m coming out ahead. Especially since I’m buying better quality products from Walmart. I mean nothing pisses me off more than spending 3 to 4 times more money for Amway’s shitty dishwasher soap that doesn’t get my dishes clean when I can buy a better product at Walmart for a fraction of the price and I don’t have to wash dishes a second time around by hand.

I would say Facebook has probably created a lot more millionaires than Amway when it comes to people in their 20’s who can now retire and never work again.

I would say that Facebook doesn’t get called a scam or a pyramid scheme nowhere near as much as Amway does.

I would say that Facebook created a lot more people than Amway who were able to work for two to five years and then walk away and retire on their riches or have residual income rolling in for the rest of their lives.

I’d say Facebook doesn’t get accused of brainwashing and using mind control techniques as much as Amway does.

I’d say Facebook doesn’t get accused of followers losing tons of money the way Amway does. At least not yet! Who knows what the stock market will do!

I’d say Facebook doesn’t get accused of destroying marriages and causing as many divorces as Amway does.

I’d say Facebook doesn’t get accused of causing as much emotional distress as Amway does.

I’d say Facebook doesn’t get accused of ripping people off like Amway does.

So just what did our sack of shit Platinum say about Facebook? Its starting to come back to me now! Mostly he bitched about this 22 year old founder who is worth billions of dollars. The fucker was probably jealous! The typical WWDB doctrine of destroying what other people have because nothing makes those World Wide Destructive Bastards happier than when they’re destroying other people’s relationships and finances.

Mostly the sack of shit Platinum talked about using Facebook to snipe prospects into Amway. Not a good idea because Facebook will suspend your account if you’re spamming recruits.

It costs $300/month minimum to invest in “your own” Amway business. For that you get back a $10 commission check. Take that same $300 and buy 7 shares of Facebook stock. Or if you’re a CORE ambot you spend closer to $700/month investing in “your business” and you can take that $700 and buy 17 shares of Facebook stock. Even if Facebook drops in half overnight and you sell, you still make more money than that $10 you get back from Amway! And you probably have a whole lot more fun losing that money than you do losing even more money in Amway! Because when you’re losing money in Amway you still have to put up with being abused from the assholes in your Amway upline. At least when you lose money in Facebook nobody is abusing you and calling you a loser quitter negative unchristian dreamstealer when you decide to quit and sell your shares.

I know I’d rather go around bragging that I own shares in Facebook stock than bragging that I’m an Amway “business owner”. One of them gains respect in the eyes of the person you told that too. The other sinks you a few notches down the old shithole that you’re a dumb ass for putting your money into a pyramid scheme.

Amway Will Ruin Your Life

People are finding their way to my blog after searching for “Amway will ruin your life”.

I’ve seen a lot of people leave comments on the Internet and even on my blog about the financial and emotional devastation that Amway inflicted upon them. 99% of IBO’s who sign up to be commissioned sales agents with Amway will lose money. That’s just the way the system is designed and part of the reason that Amway is known as a scam, a pyramid scheme, and Scamway.  

The minimum monthly amount of money an IBO has to spend in purchasing Amway products is about $300 to reach 100PV that magical number at which Amway will send out a commission check of about $10. But it don’t stop there. $50/month for premier membership to WWDB (World Wide Destructive Bastards) another $35 for monthly Communikate services, say at least $50/month buying useless “motivational” CDs and books, paying to go to Amway meetings, paying even more dollars to attend out of town Amway functions because then you have ticket costs plus transportation, food, hotel, etc. Call it an average of $700/month if you even out the costs of the functions over a year. That is the bare minimum if you don’t want your sack of shit Platinum ridiculing you at Amway meetings for not coughing up the cash to meet these requirements. CORE ambots or at least those who want to impress their upline will probably spend much more than $300/month on useless shitty overpriced Amway products and more on the tool scam.

How much you money you lose depends on how long you stick it out in the Amway cult. Could only be a few hundred bucks to several thousand to tens of thousands of dollars in losses. Much of those losses come from savings, selling the house and using the equity to “invest” in your Amway business, or going into credit card debt or taking out bank loans.

Some people can bounce back from the financial losses. A lot depends on how much they lost and how much income they currently earn. A person in their 20’s who loses $50,000 is more likely to recover than a senior citizen who wiped out their entire savings to chase the Amway nightmare. In many cases even though an IBO may have been involved in Scamway for only a year or two it takes many years to recover financially. Some ambots take harder hits than others and have to declare bankruptcy. Other ambots lose their houses because their upline counselled with them to skip a few mortgage payments in order to afford to go to the next Scamway function and the bank foreclosed on them.

Here’s a tip. If you’re planning to skip a mortgage payment talk to your bank first. Many banks allow their customers to skip a month due to temporary financial setbacks. Other banks let their customers skip a few payments but require them to make up the payments over the next few months adding on extra amounts to the mortgage payment until they’re caught up. If you skip a mortgage payment because you need to money to fund your Amway upline’s goals and stiff the bank without first discussing it with the manager they’re not going to be very happy. Banks don’t want to foreclose. They don’t really want to deal with someone’s house. They just want their money.

Its like the Amway cult leaders. They don’t really want to deal with their downline - they just want their money.

Another way Amway ruins people’s lives is by destroying relationships. The Amway cult leaders start out by separating the ambots from anyone in their lives who are not in Amway. That takes care of a lot of friends and family. If the ambot’s wife has not interest in Amway and can’t stand the Amway assholes then they work hard at convincing the ambot to leave the relationship because the Amway asshole cult leaders know that the spouse can get control of the finances and stop the flow of money to Amway. But sometimes the brainwashed ambot chooses the Amway assholes over their spouse. There’s another marriage ending in divorce thanks to Scamway.

Amway ruins many lives and people take to the Internet to share their Amway horror stories. Thats why at Amway meetings the Amway cult leaders order the ambots not to look for “negative” information on the Internet about Amway. According to Amway assholes the Internet is a bathroom wall polluted by losers and quitters.

And of course everyone finds their way to Anna Banana’s chamber of Amway horrors telling about the treatment you’ll receive from Amway assholes and this is the hell you have to look forward to if you stay in Scamway - being abused by your upline.

So one more time I send out a big old FUCK YOU to two of the biggest bastards who tried to ruin our lives - the asshole that sponsored us into Amway and our sack of shit Platinum!

Walk Across That Stage!

One of the things we heard over and over and over at Amway meetings was “walking across the stage”. It referred to when ambots reached a certain volume of Amway products being sold in their business or through the combined efforts of any downline they might have buying Amway products that at the next rally they would “walk across the stage”.

The bottom starter was 1000 pin level meaning that 1000 worth of points bonus in Amway products had to be sold that month. Or approximately $3000 worth of shitty overpriced Amway products.

Most ambots who reach the 1000 pin level are what our Platinum referred to as phony pins. Wait a minute! Guess what? This is a rare moment! That sack of shit actually said something I agree with!

The Amway business is built on the slogan to “buy from your own business” so most of that $3000 would be single handedly purchased by the ambot who hopefully had enough room on his credit card to afford it.

At least once. After the first shot ambots have a shitfull of Amway shit lying around the house and if the wife has anything to say about it - this better not fucking happen again! Get rid of all this shit!

It gets kind of expensive shelling out $3000/month on useless overpriced Amway shit. The old credit card can’t take too much of this.

Nor can the wife!

Both the financial hit and getting stuck with Amway shit in the house!

This was a message taunted to ambots at every Amway cult meeting. “Don’t you want to walk across the stage?”

Uh. No. Like I haven’t walked across a stage enough times in my life already. One of the joys about growing up in this part of the world is that theater classes and school plays are very common. I’ve been on enough stages. Been there. Done that. Don’t need to do it no more. Being on a stage is really no big deal.

Unless of course you’re an Amway ambot then the cult leaders make it a big deal.

This type of Amway cult meeting is called a rally. Its where the dumb ass ambots who spent too much on their credit card to get to 1000 pin level can walk across the stage. A small smattering of higher pin levels may also be walking across the stage the same day/night.

I remember going to 3 rallies. I may have gone to more but I remember 3 of them for various reasons. What happens at rallies where ambots “walk across the stage”  is the speaker tells the ambots to line up on one side of the stage in order of the pin level they’ve reached since the last rally. Of course the speaker - Emerald or Diamond - I can’t recall which was speaking has no idea who’s coming across stage except for maybe some in their own line. So he calls for the 1000 pins and about 100 people line up. They walk across the stage and they’re told to keep it short. Walk across the stage to the microphone, Say who they are and boast about the wonderful cult leaders in their upline, and then haul ass off the other end of the stage. Still takes forever. Longer than sitting through a performance of Snow White! Once those assholes finish prancing across the stage then the speaker asks the 2500 pins to get in line. And now the line diminishes greatly. Whoever has higher limits on their credit cards I suppose. For the higher levels hardly anyone gets in line and they’re allowed to talk longer. I mean shut the fuck up you cult leaders in training. Nobody gives a shit!

Rallies are excruciating because they take so long because of all those phony 1000 pins who will likely never be a 1000 pin again. Then it gets worse when the higher pins can blab for 15 or 20 minutes each. It only seems like longer!

So spend enough money on your credit card to reach 1000 pin one month and that means you get about 15 seconds of Amway fame as a bunch of cult followers watch you walk across the stage. Is it really worth spending $3000+? Sign up for your local theater production and it will cost you less money and you’ll probably spend more time walking on the stage and be better appreciated.

Amway Cult Leaders Want to Bust Up Your Marriage

Our pompous sack of shit Platinum often said “If I don’t like you, I won’t do business with you.”  Liar! He’d do business with anyone he could just for the almighty dollar. 

A better slogan for him would have been “If I don’t like you and you refuse to do business with me, I’ll destroy your marriage.”

I was at an Amway meeting once where he ranted about one of the fellows in the room. They were in the same car driving back from Amway WWDB Family Reunion and the pompous sack of shit Platinum spent the 6 hour drive nagging him to leave his wife because she was holding him back in the business. He would never succeed in Amway as long as he was with his wife. And on and on it went. Sack of shit Platinum was even more outraged when they had a baby without asking his permission if they could start a family.

All I could think of was shut the fuck up asshole. Other people’s private lives are none of your business. Leave them alone. Asking “permission” for stuff going on in their private personal lives? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! Like I need any further proof that this is a cult leader trying to control other people’s lives!

On the drive home I told Ambot that the sack of shit has no business trying to destroy that couple’s relationship. Not a big surprise to me that Ambot admitted the fucker was trying to convince Ambot to leave me.

After a few unsuccessful months of trying his damnedest to convince Ambot to leave me the sack of shit Platinum cult leader tried another tactic. By this time I’d quit going to cult meetings because I couldn’t stand that fucking asshole Platinum and refused to show up anywhere that he might be which pretty much meant all Amway cult meetings. Ambot told me one night the Platinum bastard led the group in a prayerfest. He was bitching at Ambot and saying he wasn’t man enough for the Amway business and he didn’t deserve to be married to me because he wasn’t man enough. Tonight the Platinum sack of shit led the Amway meeting into a prayer group, praying that I would find another man and leave Ambot.

And these fanatic fucked up Amway cult members wonder why I can’t stand them. 

The only good thing that came out of that prayerfest is that Ambot saw the truth of this evil cult and stopped attending Amway meetings.

The Platinum’s preaching is that any man not getting ahead in the Amway business is because his wife is holding him back and he should leave her. If an IBO has a potential prospect and the wife isn’t interested, upline immediately jumps on their ass and proclaims its because this couple already has existing problems in their relationship. Its the old blame the victim scam that ambots regularly deploy whenever an IBO isn’t making money in Scamway.

Gee none of these fucking Amway assholes ever think that perhaps someone is not getting ahead in Amway is because its a system designed for failure and that less than 1% of IBO’s will make money at Amway. Did they ever think the reason a wife isn’t interested in Amway is because she doesn’t want to lose her money to this pyramid scheme? Nope. Amway cult followers are only in it for themselves and their fucked up beliefs.

The relationship problems only happen after getting involved in Amway. Happy marriages go sour after one spouse gets immersed in the cult and is constantly badgered by the upline to get the PV/BV up there and buy more products to the point of sucking dry the bank accounts and maxing out credit cards. Attend more meetings chasing futile dreams. Put another dollar in. Put a few more thousand dollars in. Got to keep this Amway cult thriving.

So now is another perfect opportunity to send a fuck you out to our fucking asshole sponsor because if he’d minded his own fucking business and backed off after I said not interested then Ambot would not have got sucked dry by the fucking Amway cult. Another fuck you out to the sack of shit Platinum for going out of his way to fuck up other people’s lives for no other reason than he’s a sorry sick fucked up reincarnation of Jim Jones. He is one of Amway’s shining 8pm warriors.

Actually I’ll send a big old fuck you out to Amway’s head office too for not doing anything when we complained about that fucking lying sack of shit Platinum. They must be so proud of their shining 8pm warrior who goes around fucking up other people’s lives all in the name of Amway.

Amway Products are a Good Reason Not to Get Involved with Amway

There were many reasons I didn’t want to get involved with Amway. Some of the reasons:

1. We’d already done it before and lost money and I knew to expect the same
2. Losing more money
3. Wasting our time
4. Attending boring, lengthy meetings where the same thing was said over and over and over and over and over and over........
5. Using shitty, nasty, useless, overpriced, substandard Amway products

Of course there were other reasons, namely our sponsor is an arrogant prick and our Platinum is a pompous sack of shit. I don’t like either of them and don't want to spend any time around them. If they’re in Amway that’s the best reason not to be in Amway.

But rather than cursing out my upline I’ll go back to the shitty Amway products.

I do not use vitamins. People who eat healthy low fat meals and eat lots of fruits and vegetables or otherwise eat balanced meals generally do not need supplements. Sure enough the upline told us all these vitamins we needed to take just like the last time we were in Amway. The reason ambots are brainwashed into buying all those overpriced vitamins is because it gives them the best PV bang for your buck. That’s what the cult leaders at Amway meetings preached to us. So our cupboard ended up jam packed with just about every vitamin Ambot could think to buy.

I never felt any difference from Amway Nutrilite vitamins other than a lighter bank account. I’ve felt no difference whenever I take vitamins from other suppliers either. Maybe I’m not old enough yet where taking vitamin supplements is going to benefit me. Amway IBO’s are running around from one meeting to another and don’t get home until early in the morning that they don't have time to stop and cook decent meals. They go through the drive thru at fast food joints and cram in the burgers and fries while driving to an Amway meeting or perhaps they don’t eat at all - I mean who can afford to go out and buy groceries when they have to use all their disposable income towards buying Amway products - so they need to use vitamin supplements to balance their poor nutrition.

I hated Amway dish soap Dish Drops. It comes in a small bottle with a pump dispenser. The thing I hate most about Dish Drops is the bubbles don't last. I’m still washing dishes and I have no soap bubbles. Its not like I have a ton of dishes I wash in the sink. I have a dishwasher but I also wash by hand dishwasher rejects or items that I don’t normally put in the dishwasher. Dish Drops come in refill sizes and like the good little Ambot my husband was he stocked up on Dish Drops and we used it long after our Amway affiliation has ended. I hate being wasteful and throwing things away. I was really happy when I could switch back to better quality dish soap at a fraction of Amway’s price.

Amway also sells dishwasher detergent, little white pucks. I hated them too. After every load I’d pull dishes or plates out that I’d call “dishwasher rejects” and then I'd have to wash them by hand with the shitty Dish Drops whose bubbles didn’t last. Nasty! If my Ambot husband washed the dishes maybe the shitty Amway products wouldn't have bothered me so much. But no like the typical ambot husband he bought shitty Amway cleaning products and expected that I would just love using them. Nopers. I prefer to use cleaning products that actually work.

I finally had enough of the shitty Amway dishwasher pucks and didn’t inform Ambot when they ran out. Instead I visited a forum and saw a discussion going on about the best dishwasher soap and the overwhelming response went to Wal-Mart’s brand Great Value so I decided to give them a try. Its a powder in plastic wrap that disolves during the wash. Wow! What a difference. It actually gets my dishes and glasses clean. What a refreshing change from using Amway’s dishwasher soap! I no longer have a huge stack of dishwasher rejects. In fact its very rare that I'll have to pull aside anything to rewash by hand. Maybe two items a month.

Ambot noticed I’d switched dishwasher machine detergents and wanted to know why I didn’t tell him so he could order more Amway shit. I told him I was fed up with all the dishwasher rejects that I had to wash by hand and told him if he wanted to continue using Amway dishwasher pucks, then he was going to be responsible for hand washing the rejects.

That settled that problem!

An ambot actually doing the dishes! Don’t make me laugh. Those ambots get brainwashed by their male chauvinist pig Amway cult leaders into thinking its the 1800s and women do all the housework.

What about XS Energy Drinks aka piss water. We never had energy drinks in the house before getting involved with Amway and now all of a sudden these expensive little tins are in my fridge and the empties are littered around the house. Apparently another teaching at Amway meetings by those male chauvinist Amway cult leaders is that the woman of the house will be happy to pick up all those empties and dispose of them so the man can leave them wherever they drop. Because only the man is drinking them. Women do not like drinking piss water!

Now is a good time for me to send out another fuck you to Amway and our upline for introducing that nasty piss water and your old fashioned beliefs into our house.

Perfect Water which would be better named Perfectly Useless Water and their bullshit claims about how it miraculously cures whatever ails you. This snake oil can be yours too for $50 for a case of 24 bottles. Uh lets see. How about $3 or $4 at Walmart for a case of 24 bottles of water that don’t boast it cures cancer.

Those Amway products are the main culprits why prospects should not get involved with Amway.

And from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

 

Amway IBO Rats

I saw a good comment left recently on Joecools (aka my) Amway scheme blog so I have decided to run with it here.

IBO rats stalk people in malls, eat shitty food bars, pay double for water and always on nutrilite pills.

Yup absolutely. IBO’s stalk people in malls and grocery stores looking for new victims to attack with their viruses. Rats are scavengers, likewise IBO rats. The rodents might eat the guts off a dead porcupine that’s been hit by a car but IBO rats eat those shitty food bars. Same thing. It takes a creepy unclean rat to eat either one of those! Pay double for water? Surely you jest. A 24 pack of water costs less than 5 bucks at Walmart. Amway sells 24 packs of Perfect Water for closer to $50 so thats 10 times the cost.

Rats are nocturnal creatures, much the same as Amway IBO rats and their late night meetings. Turn on the lights and they run for cover so they won’t see the truth. Scurrying around late at night plotting to fuck up other people’s lives. Have you ever seen Hoarders TV show. Just about every episode has houses with rats in them either dead or alive that have destroyed the owner’s property who never really seem to care that they’re sharing their house with these vile creatures. Like their rodent relatives Amway rats also infest peoples homes. They find some way to squeeze inside the home and plot how they will destroy all the nice things the owner has in their house and replace them with shitty Amway products.  

Some of those upline rats walked through our house with Ambot. They came armed with a worksheet that listed household goods that people commonly buy to show how Amway sells similar products. I didn’t accompany Ambot and the Amway rats on their route of destruction about how we should get rid of illegal products and immediately replace them with overpriced substandard Amway shit. I wonder how the rats liked looking in the bathroom cupboards to see what brand of tampons were in there!

From Wikipedia “Rats are seen as vicious, unclean, parasitic animals that steal food and spread disease.”

I’d say that description is very accurate of Amway IBO rats too. The people I met in Amway were about the most vicious human beings I’ve ever come across. Greedy materialistic bastards who brainwashed Ambot to spend all our money on Amway products and tools and when the savings had been used to use the credit card. Better known as helping the upline get the PV up there so they could meet their monthly goals. And when the money flow stops? Those Amway rats launch an attack squealing out “loser” and “quitter” and “you’ll be broke for the rest of your life”. Amway rats are not happy until they cause divorces, bankruptcies, and foreclosures.

Unclean? Well maybe IBO rats bathe regularly in Amway soap products but there is more than one way to be unclean. It refers to breaking the law too. Every Amway rat I met has been guilty of doing something unclean such as lying, scamming, fraud, mistreatment of others, etc.

Parasitic? Spread disease and viruses. Yup Amway IBO rats do that. The diseases and viruses they spread have to do with destroying marriages, destroying families, destroying bank accounts....

Steal food? In a way Amway rats steal good food by telling their downline to change their spending and eating habits to accommodate Amway products. Down with fresh fruit and vegetables and use Amway Nutrilite vitamins instead.

Amway IBO rats can be compared to London’s black plague which probably started from infested fleas that lived on the rats that overran the city. An estimated 100,000 people were estimated to have died before the great fire in 1666 helped wipe out the plague.

It is unknown the number of people who have been destroyed by Amway IBO rats. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Vicious parasitic creepy Amway rats creep out to leave comments on blogs like mine but scurry back into their sewers when they’re confronted with the truth and unable to prove their lies. What’s it going to take to destroy the Amway rats and wipe them out for good?

The only good rat is a dead one. And maybe not ever then. One still has to dispose of it.

Mortgage your House all in the Name of Amway!

I’ve heard from a reader who mortgaged their house to buy Amway products.

Why the fuck do people do things like this?

Its all part of Amway’s sell the hope not the soap campaign. We go to Amway functions and the Diamonds stand on stage and tell their hard luck story. They all have the same story told slightly differently. I swear these bastards got together to figure out what fables to tell to the ambots in the audience anxious to devour every bullshit word from their beloved cult leaders.

The Diamond’s hard luck stories usually go to the effect that both the husband and wife were working minimum wage jobs when a dear friend came along to show them the Amway business plan. Every one of them seems to have borrowed $20 from their aunt to put gas in the car to get to the first Amway function. And the rest is history. The stuff that Amway fairy tales are made of. Ambots are ordered by their cult leaders to do whatever it takes to get to Amway functions. They fail to say the real reason they need high attendance is because those functions are how the Diamonds make most of their money from the tool scam. They give shitty advice to skip a few meals or skip the mortgage payment or take out a 2nd mortgage on your house. That way you’ll have the money to get to Amway functions.

The brainwashing that goes into these ambots to make them do dumb things just to make their cult leaders richer is incredible.

Mortgaging your house to buy Amway products? Just how many shitty overpriced Amway products does one person need? I guess that depends on if they play to single handedly - no downline or customers - get to their 1000 pin that month. Or maybe 2500 pin or 5000. Take any of those PV pin amounts and multiply by 3 to get the approximate dollar value of what those products cost.

How did the upline brainwash the ambots to mortgage the house for no other reason than to help their upline meet some goal that month. Probably had something to do with an upline Diamond falling out of qualification and everyone downline who owned a house was ordered to mortgage it and buy Amway products. You help your upline and one day there will be someone downline who will do the same for you.

Fuck that shit!

Can we say inventory loading?

I’ve never been brainwashed by a cult so I can’t pretend to understand what is going through the minds of these people who do crazy dumb ass things like mortgaging their house to buy Amway products just so they can get a little recognition and praise from their upline.

I thought it was bad enough to drain the savings account and run up the credit card debt just to keep the Amway cult leaders happy. Risking your house, probably your biggest investment, the place where you have a roof over your head and a warm dry place for your family to live and keep their stuff just because some upline asshole needs more PV to reach their monthly goal is stupid.

I’ve seen too many stories from former IBO’s who’ve lost their house thanks to the Amway scam. A little maneuver our upline tried to do with us too to take out a 2nd mortgage so we could buy lots more Amway shit. Ambot was convinced this was the right thing to do just because some upline Amway asshole said so. Too bad for him he’s not the only name on the deed and I ain’t putting up the house because some fucking Amway asshole that I despise says to do so.

Ah yes. No wonder those fucking assholes tried so hard to destroy our marriage. Once the ambot’s money supply runs out and the wife/husband refuses to use their credit card or sign away the house or car there’s nowhere else for those bastards to go except to destroy the relationship.

As all good little cult leaders must do.

Call it revenge for the PV not being as high as they want.

Can you image what becomes of a house that goes into foreclosure due to the Amway scam. The sherrif evicts the family and goes in with a crew to remove the belongings and put them into storage. And what are they removing? Boxes and boxes of $50 bottles of Perfect Water, boxes of XS piss water, boxes of shitty Amway Nutrilite food bars, and enough bottles of Nutrilite vitamins to clog every toilet in the Trump Tower.

And then when the evicted don’t pay the storage fees it gets auctioned off. Can you see that one on Storage Wars? Jarrod and Brandy pay a few hundred bucks for the unknown items inside the abandoned locker and end up with boxes and boxes of Amway shit.

Bring the dumpster over!

Escape the Rat Race or become a Rat-Faced Amway IBO?

Want to start the New Year by finding a new career and becoming your own boss? That goal could be on some people’s New Year’s resolutions. Whatever you do don’t get involved in a scam like Amway or another MLM where less than 1% of the victims make money. And the only way they make money is by taking advantage and scamming money from their downline. There are other careers to consider, many that have smaller expenses than Amway. In the Amway scam it costs an average of $700/month to buy Amway products to reach minimum PV, buy monthly CD’s and books, attend functions, and travel expenses.

I read an article on Yahoo called 8 jobs to escape the rat race.

Many of these jobs listed can be done from your own home and seeing as how most people already own computers and cars they can get started fairly cheaply. Or at least the same cost as spending a year in the Amway hell hole throwing money at the great Amway gods who sit on top of the pyramid. I’ll do a quick comparison. After a year most people quit Amway and leave with nothing to show for it except debt, a deflated bank account, unhappiness, and emotional scars. Investing in yourself in a legitimate business opportunity can bring happiness, a new career, and possibly financial independence.

So here are the 8 jobs to escape the rat race that I read on Yahoo. I know people who do some of these jobs. I’ll list them off in the same order they’re in the Yahoo article:

1. Yoga teacher - I’ve done a lot of yoga classes and know several teachers. I know one teacher who rents a hall to hold classes several times a week and who also travels to her clients who don’t want a classroom experience. Some like to do yoga in their back yard or at the beach or other location to get in touch with nature. The person in the Yahoo article sells yoga videos. I’m not sure what kind of training is required to teach yoga. Most teachers I know have been yoga students for a long time and then just moved into teaching as a way of keeping themselves fit. Perhaps yoga studios and gyms require their teachers to have some sort of accreditation which can cost a few hundred dollars but teaching yoga independently may not require anything more than years of studying and sharing that knowledge. Drop in yoga classes cost about $10. Coincidentally the same amount as paying to go to an Amway meeting. The benefit is a yoga class lasts an hour opposed to Amway meetings that drag on for hours. Yoga classes are very quiet with soft background music and only the instructor speaking quietly helping the students through the poses. Unlike Amway meetings where the attendees are screaming “Yeah!” “Freedom!” “Hallelujah!” etc.

2. Massage therapist - There’s nothing like a good massage and I know several masseuses. Some have a mobile business and will come to your house with a folding massage table. Others work out of spas. And another has a home based business so people come to her house for various massages. They all charge about the same, about $100/hour once tax and tip is included so its pretty good money. They’ve all taken training to become massage therapists and learn various types of massages and dealing with injuries and the courses cost in the $5000 to $10,000 range to become a masseuse. So I would say for about the same amount of money most IBO’s waste in a year in Amway they could take classes to become a masseuse and have a lifetime career earning around $100/hour, choosing their hours, and possibly fairly little overhead once they’ve bought their equipment.

3. Technical writer - I don’t know anyone in this field. Expanding it out further there are all kinds of writers and most people can do this kind of business out of their house. There might be some classes to take, cost unknown, probably varies depending on what kind of writing but probably no overly formal, expensive training if one already has a talent for writing.

4. Make up artist - again this seems to be the kind of career that one could take training at or just years of experience and having a knack for this kind of work. I do not know anyone who is a make up artist but expanding it further I do know of a hair stylist who has a business set up in her basement. She went to hair cutting school years ago and I think its just a knack for styling hair, kind of like other artists. Years ago another friend of mine went to hair dressing school but had to drop out because she was allergic to coloring treatments so its not for everyone. Here I want to add that being an Amway IBO selling overpriced, low quality, lousy selection Artistry cosmetics and calling yourself a make up artist does not count!

5. Internet tutor - Not an occupation I know of anyone who does. Branching out I know someone who runs a home based computer repair business. He offers pick up and drop off service. I don’t know if he took any training or if he’s just one of these natural computer geeks who’s good at taking things apart and fixing them. Makes pretty good money doing this.

6. Social media consultant - Ah, now this is the kind of work that IBOFB does. Companies hire people like him to give them an Internet presence mostly hitting social media sites like blogging, commenting on other blogs, Twitter, Facebook and make them look good. Most companies want a positive image out on the world wide web and I see company consultants trying to solve customer service problems, offering giveaways, running contests, making apologies and trying to fix problems, that kind of thing. IBOFB has an uphill battle trying to take a company with a tarnished reputation and in trying to turn the image around has only succeeded in making himself and the Amway corporation look like a bunch of assholes. Those assholes have not made any attempt to do the right thing and refund people’s money and apologize for upline abuse. Their strategy is to lie, deny, and point fingers. But what else do you expect from scammers? Other social media consultants do a much better job but that comes from dealing with reputable companies who care about people and doing the right thing. No special training required, just have to be good at social media and good at dealing with people. Or suck at dealing with people and trying to straighten out problems as in Amway and IBOFB’s case! But then Amway is one of those rare companies who doesn’t give a shit that their victims are sharing their stories on the Internet and has no interest in talking to dissatisfied customers, fixing the problem, and refunding their money.

7. Private chef - A friend of mine runs a catering business mostly she can handle on her own or sometimes she has one or two people she brings in for larger events. She does this either in her own kitchen or if a hall is booked and has a kitchen there she might do some of the cooking on site. She also provides meals that can be frozen and then taken out and thawed, baked for people who have busy lives. She didn’t take any chef classes, just has a knack for cooking good meals.

8. Personal trainer - I know someone who is a personal trainer and runs a mobile business going to client’s homes or gyms. As weather permits she also runs fitness classes in local parks. Again low overhead but she did take classes and get accredited as a fitness instructor. Not sure how much those classes cost her to take, lets say around $5000. This is less than what some people waste a year chasing the Amway dream.

So I conclude that for about the same amount of money that people throw at the great Amway god in a year, they can start up their own business, often running it right out of their own home or going to client’s homes. And have a lifetime, or at least many years, worth of income generated from doing this business. Most IBO’s quit Amway in less than a year with losses of $5000 to $10,000.

New Year’s resolution? Stay the hell away from Amway and try one of the above careers. Your sanity and your bank account will thank you!

Keeping Up with the Ambots

A take on the old phrase about keeping up with the Joneses. From Wikipedia:

"Keeping up with the Joneses" is an idiom in many parts of the English-speaking world referring to the comparison to one's neighbor as a benchmark for social caste or the accumulation of material goods. To fail to "keep up with the Joneses" is perceived as demonstrating socio-economic or cultural inferiority.

Living beyond one’s means can end in disaster. Financial ruin. Debt. Bankruptcy. Foreclosure. Divorce.

Kind of like being in Amway.

In Amway the pressure is there all the time to have what everyone else has. Even in our case. We were abnormal in our line of sponsorship. One of very few who actually owned their house, drove nice cars, had retirement savings, etc.

So with us the upline had to go a different strategy and mostly target Ambot because I wasn’t too interested in what they had to say. The upline put the pressure on to reach certain levels: Platinum, Emerald, and then Diamond. All of this to be accomplished in 2 to 5 years. The pressure was put on Ambot to get to that level because everyone else in the WWDB line would be reaching those levels at the same time and we didn’t want to be left behind did we.

Then of course there are the Amway functions with slide shows of the Diamond lifestyle. Mansions, sports cars, yachts, private jets, luxury vacations.

To reach that coveted level we had to buy Amway products and motivational tools and find others to do the same. Ambot always bought more than enough Amway products each month to make over 100 PV but the upline still phoned and badgered him. Upline Asshole has this much PV this month. Surely you want to beat him and get to Platinum before him. That kind of bullshit.

The pressure was always on Ambot to buy things like motivational tools that others in the WWDB group hadn’t bought so he could be one up on them and that meant the rest of them had to keep up with us.

It was just a crazy roller coaster and maybe keeping up with the ambots gets worse the higher up you get. Other bloggers have commented on Diamonds who have declared bankruptcy and gone into foreclosure and provided links to where the documentation can be found online. No doubt in my mind that those Diamonds have to keep up and surpass each other when it comes to material possessions which has led to their financial downfall.

There were other things that Ambot purchased during the time we were in Amway that had nothing to do with the pyramid scheme but were general purchases for things around the house. Things that pissed me off because we had no need for them but he had to buy them so he’d look good in front of the other ambots.

To sum it up when we were in Amway we spent money buying things we didn’t need (both Amway products and material possessions) just so Ambot could impress people I did not like.

Yup real mature. Real good reason to be involved in the shitty Amway business. Gotta keep up with those ambots!

Staying In Amway For Fear of Breaking Marriage

Yup, that was the criteria a searcher used and found their way to my blog: Staying in Amway for fear of breaking marriage.

Very disturbing. Not the part about fearing Amway because Amway should be feared.

I heard at countless Amway meetings how Amway saves marriages. And even some bullshit from our Platinum about how WWDB has a lower divorce rate than the rest of the population. How the hell he came up with that little gem I’ll never know. But then all he’s good at doing is spouting off lies and expecting his beloved cult followers to believe every word he says is true.

I think what I have to say about the hell I went through thanks to Amway and what other women have said, some who’ve left comments here, and other comments I’ve borrowed from other web pages speaks for itself.

The wives of ambots are victims in the Amway pyramid scheme.

We have to put up with husbands who are being brainwashed by their cult leaders. They turn into nasty, sarcastic, sneering assholes who are turned against everyone who doesn’t support their Amway business.

As our Platinum used to chant: “People who are not in Amway are stupid.”

Our husbands believe that. They don’t want to be around stupid people. And yes just because their sack of shit Platinum says it makes it true. In their brainwashed minds that is.

In addition to the personality change that women have to put up with from their ambot husband, they can also look forward to not spending much time with him. There will be at least two Amway meetings a week. Maybe as many as four. The upline will be demanding the husband’s attention either in the way of lengthy phone calls, never ending text messages, or being summoned to last minute counselling sessions.

Let me just take a moment to send a big fuck you out to our former upline now that I’m reliving those horrible memories! Fuck you assholes!

Also the wife has to deal with spending no time with the ambot husband. He’s not interested in family get togethers, going out with his wife and family for fun outings, going on vacation. Nothing. He’s not interesting in doing nothing unless its kissing his upline’s ass and going to Amway functions.

Then there’s the finances. Credit cards are being maxed out so the ambot can buy as many Amway products as his upline bullies him into doing. Gotta get that PV up there so some upline fucker can meet that month’s goals! Bank account is dwindling. Bills are not being paid. Rent or mortgage is a few months late and perhaps eviction or foreclosure proceedings have been started. No marriage needs that kind of stress added on to the participation in Amway being the cause of it.

Their credit scores have gone down the toilet.

And just a few months ago their marriage was great. There was no debt. They had some savings. Bills were never overdue. They were having fun together and loving life.

Then the evil monster named Amway took a shit on their marriage.

Wives can tolerate a lot of things from their husbands. There’s always that one ugly piece of furniture they want in the house. Or that Rolling Stones T shirt they had to buy. They always have some dipshit asshole for a friend that the wife can’t stand. They go through weird phases like when they decided buying a 4 wheeler was a good idea.

The problem with Amway is that the wife ends up having all her husband’s new friends turn against her if she doesn’t join him and stand by his side smiling stupidly at him and keeping quiet like a good little ambot wife. The upline ambots do everything they can to destroy the marriage telling the ambot his wife is a dream stealer, negative, unchristian, a loser. What ever those troublemaking bastards brainwash the ambot into believing. They are hell bent to destroy the marriage because she doesn’t support the Amway business and doesn’t want to put any more money into it or go further into debt trying futilely to be part of the less than 1% of IBO’s who actually earn money at Amway. She knows a business with a 99% failure rate has the odds stacked against them from the start. There are better ways to invest their money. Common sense decisions like that and cutting off money to the great Amway gods makes ambots scream out every lie they can to turn the husband against her.

The wife has fallen into a dark place when she has to hit the Internet with the question asking if she should stay in Amway even though its breaking up their marriage.

What does she kick out? Amway or the ambot?

Eat Snacks Much?

Do you know someone who eats snacks and drinks every day?

At Amway meetings our sack of shit Platinum would ask questions like this to everyone in the room. The old amiable brainwashing approach to get the followers to agree with everything you say.

What does he expect people to say? No I don't know anyone who drinks something every day. Every one I know is dehydrated!

Do people eat snacks every day? One person's definition of a snack might differ from someone elses. There's been tons of articles written about what constitutes a healthy snack. Ambots go around screaming about how Amway offers healthy snacks.

When I want to eat a bag of tortilla chips one of those nasty styrofoam Amway snacks ain't going to do the trick for me. Same if I want a ginger ale. Drinking XS piss water just isn't the same thing!

Then the sack of shit taunts the cult followers by saying how easy it is to find someone who wants to eat an Amway power bar and an Amway drink every day. He then fills in a chart about how much money these snacks costs if you were to buy them from a grocery store or a coffee shop.

Well holy shit I don't know where he buys his groceries but I can buy a box of granola bars from Walmart for around $2 and that's 5 or 6 bars. Amway has a box of 5 or 6 bars too but they cost $30. Walmart granola bars taste way better too. What about that Perfect Water? Costs close to $50 for a case of 24 and the sack of shit tries to break that down by $2 a bottle so that's not too bad about the same cost as buying a water from 7-11. However I can go to Walmart or Costco and buy a 24 pack of water for under $5 so maybe 20 cents a bottle is the breakdown.
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It takes the Platinum at least an hour into an Amway meeting before he even starts talking about Amway and the business plan. Once he gets all gung ho on the eat and drink a shitty Amway product daily then he gets all excited about how many points (PV) you get and how much money you make.

The numbers keep going higher and higher based on how many people an ambot can scam into eating one Amway bar and drinking one Amway beverage a day.

Realistic chances of finding other people to eat and drink that shit? Not good.

Realistic chances of finding people willing to pay 3, 4, 5, 10 times more money for a shitty Amway product that they can buy a similar better tasting product in the grocery store? Even worse.

The sack of shit Platinum gets the cult members so focused on the numbers that he is tossing around and all excited about the gazillions of dollars they can earn by flogging the Amway snack plan that before anyone can really digest the bullshit he is trying to brainwash them with he moves on to another topic. That sack of shit gets easily distracted.

Or perhaps its just part of his master plan in the Amway scam.

Amway IBO’s are Commissioned Salespeople

One of the biggest arguments that people being prospected by an Amway IBO come up with are that they are not salespeople and are not interested in being a salesperson. The brainwashed IBO fights back with the response that Amway is not about selling: register, set up a store, buy from your own store, convince family and friends to shop at your Amway store, and sign up others to join Amway and teach them to do what you do.

Yeah almost anything looks possible on paper but the reality of trying to get it off the ground is another story.

Ambots argue they Amway is not a pyramid scheme because they have actual products for sale. Overpriced, substandard products, but nevertheless an actual product for sale.

Amway’s own sales figures show that less than 4% of their sales are to people who are not registered IBO’s so the other 96% are IBO’s who are self consuming their own products or inventory loading. When the IBO’s are not self consuming their own products or inventory loading they are on a rabid quest to recruit others to do the same thing.

Self consuming, inventory loading, recruiting new cult followers. Pyramid scheme!

I argued with Ambot that I am not a salesperson therefore Amway is not a good business choice for us. I don’t have a sales type personality like many people who are not comfortable approaching a stranger and striking up a conversation and hope to sell them a house, a car, or a pair of shoes. Our upline told us we didn’t have to be good salespeople to make our riches in Amway. That was one of many lies told to us. Amway “independent business owners” are really commissioned salespeople and to some extent everyone has to sell either the Amway business module or Amway products.

Or those who can’t do either self consume and inventory load Amway products so they can get the PV and into a higher bonus bracket for paltry commission checks from Amway.

Ambot had been brainwashed by his upline to believe he didn’t have to sell Amway products to make it big in the business which is what he tried to convince me. What!? What do all those fucking board plans say? You make your money in Amway buying their products and recruiting other people who will also buy Amway products. You have to be good at selling Amway products and good at selling the business opportunity to convince someone else to pay $150 to sign up and spend $300 month buying Amway products to consume. In other words be good at selling hope and dreams. You have to also be good at motivating any downline you sign up not to quit and to keep buying Amway products and investing in the tool scam.

Seeing as how I’m  not good at selling I was unable to sell Ambot on the truth that he was really a commissioned salesperson in a futile business venture. Nobody wants to buy Amway’s shitty overpriced products and no one wants to join the Amway cult. That has nothing to do with his sales ability. Its just that he’s chosen a lousy product to believe in and a lot of people in the states are already aware of the Amway scam.

Amway’s shitty reputation for overpriced substandard products and cult similarities makes it really hard to sell others on this poor business opportunity no matter how good a salesperson you are.

How 2 Broke Girls Get Even Broker the Amway Way

Has everyone seen the previews of a new series coming to CBS September 19 2011 called 2 Broke Girls.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/2_broke_girls/

The premise is two girls in their twenties who are roommates and work as waitresses. They’re trying to raise a couple of hundred thousand dollars so they can open a cupcake store but in the meantime they are barely scraping by.

Gee don’t they just sound like prime targets for some crazed ambot?

You know the bullshit lines those IBO’s use on people like what do you do for a living and if its some minimum wage type job then the ambot jumps all over them.

Wouldn’t you like to be making an extra $2000/month working part time from home?

Sure, who wouldn’t?

What about your dreams?

Owning a cupcake bakery.

How much money will that take.

A couple of hundred thousand.

Hey how would you like to be making a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year working part time from home.

That’s how it always starts.

Then when the IBO digs deeper and finds they’re barely scraping by, their eyes light up and they rub their hands together in glee. Got a prospect!

The problem is if those 2 broke girls sign up with Amway if they thought they were broke now they don’t know the meaning of the word broke! Spend at least $300/month to meet the minimum PV requirement to get a bonus check of around $10. Then there’s Premier Membership to WWDB for $50/month, Communikate for $40/month, books and CDs at least $100/month, and $10 for every Amway meeting attended in the month. If its a major function cost of ticket, food, travel, and hotel, at least $1000.

After a few months the 2 broke girls have thrown at least $5000 each at the Amway scheme and are way deep in the hole. They had a couple of friends buy Amway products at the beginning but their friends don’t want to buy from them anymore because they can buy similar products at Walmart that are better quality and cost less money. As hard as they prospect every customer that walks in the door of the restaurant they can’t convince anyone to come to an Amway meeting. They’ve even tried all the tricks upline suggested inviting prospects to a tea party, movie night, or beer bust disguised as an Amway event.

The 2 broke girls find themselves getting broker and broker by the second thanks to the Amway scheme.

They decide to quit.

Their upline rides their asses.

“You can’t quit now. Not when success is right around the corner.”

“Only losers aren’t in Amway.”

“I guess your dream of owning a cupcake store just wasn’t big enough.”

“Think of all those poor homeless little cupcakes that are going to die because you don’t open up a store and sell them.”

The 2 broke girls tell their upline to fuck off and die.

To celebrate getting the Amway albatross off their necks they stop at a 7-11 on the way home and buy a lottery ticket. They win half a million dollars and are able to open their cupcake shop anyway. Unfortunately it becomes a hang out for ambots to hold meetings at and they pester the cupcake clients. The 2 formerly broke girls file a complaint with Amway’s head office who don’t give a shit and do nothing.

Well if you can’t beat them join them. The 2 formerly broke girls start to offer ambots free chocolate cupcakes and that really packs their restaurant when word gets out.

Specially made for Amway IBO’s they’re loaded with ex-lax.

Ironically out of service signs always are posted on the cupcake store’s restrooms whenever ambots are in there.

And they said Amway doesn’t give a shit!