Who Loves/Hates their Amway Upline?

I had a newly signed up IBO stop by to claim they would never spend “insane” amounts of money on Amway. I had detailed some of the basic monthly expenses each IBO has to shell out in order to keep in good standing with the assholes in their Amway upline in this post.  Oddly enough those “insane” amounts were minimal. CORE IBO’s would spend a lot more than that in purchasing Amway products and tools and sucking up to the assholes in their upline for a few fleeting moments of adoration and praise.

This new ambot also had this to say about their upline:

My uplines are amazing people, patient, never pushy, and very good people.

Ha ha! Excuse me while I PUKE!!!!!!!

I’m sure most ambots say that about their upline when they are new and are being gushed over and love bombed.

One of the first things an Amway ambot is convinced to do is to buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that first month they sign up. And of course every month thereafter. 100 PV = around $300. 100 PV = magical amount to qualify to receive a commission check from Amway. Buying 100 PV of Amway products means a commission check of about $10. If you happen to convince any friends and relatives to buy Amway products you will also earn a commission on those products too. Commission would come in extra PV plus depends on what price you sold the product to your friends to Amway’s wholesale or retail.

Don’t buy at least 100 PV in Amway products that month? You don’t get your puny Amway commission check. Even worse some fucking asshole in your Amway upline will phone toward the end of the month and bitch at you until you pull out the credit card. Still might phone and bitch at you to buy more Amway shit even if you bought at least 100 PV because some asshole further up the Amway upline has a “goal” to meet that month and needs the cult followers to buy more so they can reach whatever level it is they’re after.

How many Amway meetings in a week? That might depend on your upline and how many they have scheduled and what they have decided is a meeting. Sometimes they hold spur of the moment meetings and demand your immediate presence at a coffee shop or a prospect sniping session at the grocery store. Could be between 2 to 5 Amway meetings in a week. Maybe you got something better to do on one of those nights and skip a meeting. Expect a phone call or multiple texts from some asshole in your Amway upline to scold you. Before and after the meeting. Which means your phone will be ringing or text dinging through and beyond midnight. Miss a meeting = punishment from the assholes in your Amway upline.

Not planning to attend an out of town Amway function? Why not? some asshole in your upline demands. You can’t miss this once in a lifetime opportunity. A life changing event. The biggest Amway event of the year. For starters it costs too much. Tickets, transportation, hotel, food, etc etc costs around $1000 maybe more. There’s a lot better things that can be done with that $1000 like your mortgage payment. Take a trip somewhere you really want to go to for starters. I mean who really wants to go to _______ for an Amway brainwashing convention. I’ll let the readers fill in the blanks. Not everyone wants to go to some out in the boonies location for a Scamway meeting. You miss an Amway function or even bring up beforehand that you’re probably not going and you’ll get a shit scolding from the Amway cult leaders.

How amazing, patient, never pushy and good are these people in the Amway upline now!!!! Ha ha ha!!!!

Of course people in Amway are going to be nice to you in the beginning. Then they set to work on brainwashing you. You must learn to be an obedient ambot or face the wrath of hell from the assholes in your Amway upline.

As I pointed on in my answer on the other post even Jim Jones was loving and kind to his parishioners in the beginning when he met them. He wanted to expand the People’s Temple and he knew he could draw more followers by love bombing them instead of revealing to them from the beginning what an asshole he is. He convinced people they were handing their money over to the church and helping the poor and disadvantaged persons and curing the ill. Blessing and helping others. Holy fuck! The assholes in our Amway upline used those words!!!! Jim Jones was a master scammer and Amway cult leaders have learned from his techniques. Jim Jones didn’t start off new recruits ordering them around and demanding slave labor from them. Likewise the assholes in our Amway upline waited a couple months before wanting chores done around their house and demanding that their every whim be catered to. Jim Jones brainwashed people to move to a paradise in Guyana. No different than Amway cult leaders who brainwash their followers to believe they will be living in paradise after 2 to 5 years in Amway. The People’s Temple cult followers found themselves in a jungle that took hard manual labor to keep under control instead of living in a tropical paradise. Amway cult followers find themselves losing money and losing their families and friends instead of the promised luxury life. Jim Jones convinced his followers to drink Kool Aid and cyanide. Those who didn’t obey were shot. Ambots who don’t obey their Amway cult leader are emotionally murdered.   

The Amway cult leaders have a love/hate relationship with their followers. Amway cult leaders are to be loved and worshipped and at the same time feared. Do not dare disobey or there will be hell to pay!

What happened to the loving supporting Amway upline who were gushing all over you and pumping you up to be the next “leader” when you signed up with Amway? Their true colors came out once they had you brainwashed and put you in the middle of their sick love/hate relationship to keep you under control.

Upline Amway assholes are the biggest fucked up two faced phonies around!

Amway IBO misses cruise ship?

So this Amway IBO is on a cruise and is pissing off everyone on the boat prospecting them. Try to enjoy your lobster and steak and some lousy ambot is sniping prospects in the grand dining room. The ship stops at this port and the ambot is hustling the locals trying to show them the Amway board plan instead of going sightseeing or shopping. He’s so busy begging the locals to sign up for Amway that he’s not watching the time. Oops cruise ship is supposed to leave at 4pm and its now 4:10. Well he has nothing to worry about. He’s an Amway IBO and that means he’s better than everyone else and has a sense of entitlement. The ship will wait for him because he’s in Amway.

Or will it?

Meanwhile up on the bridge the ship’s crew are watching this dumb ass ambot running down the dock. One of them begs the captain to pick him up and says “that’s my upline Platinum cult leader. If he doesn’t get on the ship he’ll destroy my marriage.”

The captain says “that lying sack of shit sold me Double X vitamins for 80 bucks and told me they were good for sex. They didn’t do piss all good. Fuck him. I ain’t turning this old tub around. He can find another way home!”

Emerald Teaches Us How To Go Out There and Get Customers!

In a meeting run by the asshole Emerald he said he or the sack of shit Platinum would teach us how to go out there and get customers.

What? You mean there’s more to it than sniping prospects at Safeway, Barnes & Noble, and the kids baseball game?

About an hour later he elaborates by saying the best recruits are people who are young enough not to have heard of Amway, in other words late teens to early 20’s are the best prospects.

The Emerald also extols the virtues of hounding single mothers and people in debt.

He doesn’t say that single mothers are necessarily in debt but he says they are most likely struggling financially and don’t have enough time to spend with their children and an Amway work at home job would be perfect for them. People in debt would like to get out of debt. (Oh boy would Amway be a horrible opportunity for them. Amway = MORE DEBT!!!)

So how do you find people in debt? Most people who are at their limit on 20 credit cards and behind on their rent and water bill don’t usually go around bragging about it. What is an IBO to do? Run up to random people and demand to know their financial position?

Uh huh, they’d probably get a big fuck off for their trouble.

How about sniping customers at Barnes & Noble who are looking at books on how to get out of debt?

IBO’s feel a sense of entitlement to prospecting at Barnes & Noble because that is one of the shops that Amway has a portal for online shopping. Unfortunately management disagrees. They say Amway IBO’s are the biggest violators of their “no soliciting” rule.

Back to the bullshit about teaching IBO’s to go out there and get customers. Like everything else to do with Amway its nothing but hot air. They never discussed anything about how to go out there and get customers other than a vague description of the people the IBO’s should be targeting - single mothers and people in debt. No helpful advice on how to convince these people who can least afford it to spend money chasing Amway dreams of riches.

Normally when someone teaches you to do something there are step by step instructions. Its like learning to drive a car. You don’t just go out and get a car, get in, and start driving without instructions. Well I guess you could but the results would likely be disastrous.

Just like Amway!

There are no instructions on how to recruit an Amway prospect other than get out there and lie to them. Don’t tell them it has anything to do with Amway just tell them its an awesome business opportunity and you’ll get rich working part time in the next 2 to 5 years. Lie to them. Give them any line you can think of to trick them into getting to an Amway meeting and the cult leader will do the rest of the work for you at convincing them to sign up.

Does Walmart have to lie to get customers to come into the store? Does Starbucks have to lie to get customers? Does Wendy’s have to lie to get customers?

Offer a product that people want, don’t rip them off, and the customers will come. You don’t have to go out and hunt them down. That’s the difference between a legitimate business and a scam.

The asshole Emerald never did tell us how to go out there and get customers but he did teach us a lot about bringing misery to people’s lives.

Sniping Prospects on Facebook

About 2 months after Facebook became live on the Internet an acquaintance of mine sent me a friend request. I didn’t know him all that well but he was in an on again off again relationship with a woman I know because she shared a house with a friend of ours for several years. I didn’t know what Facebook was so I left the email alone for awhile and then one day I finally clicked on the link, accepted the friend request and registered. He sent me a message saying he was happy I’d joined and almost right away the other 2 people I knew him through also sent me friend requests. The couple already had many friends signed up and some of them sent me friend requests too even though I didn’t actually know them I accepted the request. In the beginning I thought it was weird that people who had never physically met me wanted to be my friend. I joined a couple of groups - schools I went to and organizations I was part of - and signed up people I really knew as friends. I’ll admit I even got brave and sent friend requests to a few people I didn’t know but were friends of friends.

Facebook was kind of a good thing. I’ve reconnected with people I lost contact with many years ago. I’ve also met some new people through various groups I’m part of. I’m not huge on Facebook. Mostly I use it for posting photos and then send the link to friends of mine who aren’t on Facebook. I’m not on there every hour changing my status or seeing what my friends are doing.

Back in the early days of Facebook whenever somebody posted a comment on your friend’s wall that would show up on your news feeds too. Actually get kind of annoying seeing all these comments that people you don’t know have written on other people’s walls and on and on it’d go. It hasn’t been like that in a couple of years.

There’s a woman who I’ve never met but we’re both members of the same online group and we do have a lot of things in common so we became Facebook friends but we don’t interact all that much. One day I noticed some man had posted a comment to her wall because it showed up in my news feed. The fellow’s photo showed him dressed in a suit and he’d written a message to the effect of thank you for accepting my friend request and I look forward to networking with you in the future.

I thought it was a little weird for someone to say. When you get a new friend on Facebook you write a little hello message and maybe compliment their photos. But looking forward to networking with someone? Screams Amway all over it.

Ambot didn’t get started on Facebook until after he joined Amway, about 2 years after I'd signed up with Facebook. The sack of shit Platinum would bring it up mostly when he was talking about the name list all IBO’s have to make of people they know. He said if you have 800 friends on Facebook you can prospect them all as potential IBO’s or customers.

That seems a little creepy to me. I’d say if you have a couple of hundred friends on Facebook you probably don’t know all of them personally. Using Facebook to snipe friends as Amway prospects just seems a little screwy to me.

But Ambot decides the Platinum might actually know something and spends all his free time (and there’s not much of that when you’re involved in Amway!) looking for local entrepreneur groups he can sign up with and then he goes nutso signing up “friends”. He went overboard and Facebook suspended his account. I believe there is a maximum amount of “friends” you’re allowed to sign up daily and he exceeded it. He even told me he was getting warning messages from Facebook saying he was approaching his daily limit of friends and that he would get blocked if he didn’t stop. And then his account got suspended! Ha! Did it not occur to Ambot that Facebook puts limits in effect to stop people from spamming or signing up “friends” for business purposes - like potential Amway prospects! Like Ambot is the first person involved in an MLM who thought about using Facebook to prospect for recruits!

Its also possible that some of these unknown friends were complaining to Facebook or maybe after a person gets enough declines on friend requests that Facebook suspends them.

For all the effort Ambot put into signing up unknown people as friends and I’d have to say he got a couple of hundred he never got a single one of them to an Amway meeting or purchase any products.

Not Sniping Prospects at the Mall

If you're looking for something pointless to do, try this.

One night the Platinum sack of shit called a “special meeting” for a select small group of IBO’s. Unfortunately we were on the summons list and met up with other ambots at a mall. The Platinum gave instructions. We had to approach people and ask for directions on how to get somewhere. For example if we saw someone drinking coffee we had to ask them where that coffee shop was located. Or we had to approach random people and ask them if they had a cell phone and if there was there a store in the mall that sold cell phones. That type of thing. There was a thirty minute time limit and we had to get back to the meeting place and have our responses either written down enroute or we could write them down once we got back to show to the Platinum as proof we’d approached people.

The exercise was to randomly start a conversation asking directions because most people are open to assisting others to get them where they need to go. It was kind of funny the man we asked about a cell phone pulled his out and showed us all the features and spent some time telling us about it and where he’d bought it. For all that time spent chatting with him about a phone Ambot never got his phone number!

I suppose this little exercise was to teach us how to approach strangers and strike up a conversation. None of the conversations we had asking for directions expanded to an Amway pitch or asking for a phone number. That wasn’t part of the strike up a conversation exercise.

I think the real point of this exercise was to see who’d be the first ass kisser to bring a coffee back to the Platinum.

Just another way to waste an hour on Amway. Got to fill those 10 to 15 hours a week somehow!

We Are Robots: Bizbot (HD)

I found this on Youtube and although its been around for awhile I thought I'd share it even though some of you may have already seen it before. Love the sniping prospects. Everything in here is so true of Amway. Notice the robot is half a body with a flame beneath him. In the WWDB business plan they use half bodies and have a little cloud beneath them. I think this robot's flame is part of the Amway chant "Fired up!".

Invest your money with this Robot entrepreneur and watch it multiply... by zero.

It's not a pyramid scam. It's a pyramid money making system. Sign up with Bizbot's organization and everyday will feel like a rock concert on the moon. Bizbot may not be able to make you a billionaire overnight, but he seems to think he has the secret to success... if he can just get people to come to his meetings. He doesn't work in an office. He's out in the field, turning any setting into an opportunity for growth. Whether he's giving a motivational lecture to a captive audience in line at the bank, or turning your romantic dinner for two into a power lunch by inviting himself to join you, he is ready to achieve success by any means necessary. He's like Tony Robbins, Oprah Winfrey and Sean Diddy Combs all rolled into one. So put on the monkey suit, bet the bluetooth in your ear, drench yourself in cologne or perfume and get ready to be inspired. Don't be the last one to show up on this bus to cash town.

Sniping Prospects at the Grocery Store

I usually do one big grocery shopping trip a month and inbetween I shop as needed for perishables. Ambot had been so preoccupied with Amway meetings that we’d fallen behind on shopping and running low on everything. We had our night set aside that we were going shopping and shortly before we headed out the door his cell phone chirps that he has a text message. I tell him to ignore it because the only texts he gets are some from upline asshole.

Sure enough the arrogant prick that sponsored Ambot and the fucking idiot that sponsored him have scheduled an immediate meeting at Taco Bell. I tell Ambot to tell them to fuck off - we have other plans. Instead Ambot declares that we must drop whatever we’re doing because these cultists expect him to be available at their beck and call 24/7. Well seeing as how we hadn’t eaten dinner yet I said I’d eat some Mexican fast food and then we go grocery shopping. And I mean it. Before the store closes.

For the life of me I can’t remember what those two assholes wanted other than to harass us about “the business”. These two bastards are much younger than us and although Ambot was of the attitude that they’re our upline and we must treat them like gods I wasn’t under any similar brainwashed delusions. I made it very clear to those two bastards that I had to get to the grocery store before it closed even though they kept trying to sway Ambot to stay in Taco Bell so they could go over some very important business strategies. I sort of won this battle because Ambot and I headed to the store but those two fucking idiots followed us in their car. What are they going grocery shopping for? They both still lived at home and had their mommys taking care of the shopping and cooking.

Those two idiots told Ambot to find prospects in the grocery store. Oh shit how embarrassing is that. There’s a security guard standing outside the store so Ambot pounces on him while I push the grocery cart into the store and abandon him to his stupid Amway games. Eventually Ambot catches up to me and tells me the security guard is a hot prospect and he got his phone number. How sick is that? Its like he’s trying to pick up a date at the grocery store.

Eventually those two upline bastards get bored of walking around the grocery store or else they weren’t having much luck sniping shoppers and they left. However they continued to phone and text Ambot while we shopping so see how the prospecting is going. Ambot tried to strike up a conversation with a couple of other shoppers but mostly they looked at him like he was some weirdo while I pushed the grocery cart the hell away from his shenanigans.

Then we get to the line up for the cash register and Ambot starts talking to the man in line in front of us who looks rather uncomfortable. Ambot is using F.O.R.M. on him but bypasses F (Family) and goes right for O (Occupation). The man has something to do with developing computer games. Ambot gets that much out of him before his cell phone rings. Its the arrogant prick sponsor.

I have no idea if Ambot or the arrogant prick ever tried to contact the man. Probably lost the piece of paper the number was written down on.

I don’t know what’s more embarrassing. Faking interest in somebody’s career in the hopes of trying to trick him to come to an Amway or trying to snipe grocery shoppers to come to Amway meetings.

Ambots always say there's no other business out there like Amway. Yeah I'd say I can't think of any other company that sends their employees out to forage for prospects in places where most people don't want to be bothered by some rabid cult follower.