101 Ways to Piss Off an IBO

This topic is inspired by that new show on TV called 101 Ways to Leave a Game Show. Its hilarious! I’d like to do most of those stunts to our former upline minus the safety equipment of course!

This post might help out the people who end up at my blog after doing a Google search for “how to get rid of those annoying Amway salespeople” or “how to tell Amway people to go away”.

Here are 101 things to say to an IBO to piss him off:

1. Does this have anything to do with Amway?
2. Amway is a pyramid scheme.
3. XS Energy Drinks taste like cat piss!
4. Why did Ganesh and Neha Shenoy get divorced?
5. Why is everyone in Amway so phony nice to me?
6. $60 a year membership to buy overpriced products? Are you fucking kidding me?
7. Go to hell! Oh I forgot. You’re in Amway. Same thing.
8. Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else!
9. Why are Nutrilite vitamins so expensive? And don’t give me no bullshit about the high quality because that’s a lie.
10. I read on the Internet that IBO’s lie about Artistry Cosmetics being one of the top 5 cosmetics in the world.
11. Are you really dumb enough to believe that everything to do with Amway is a tax deduction?
12. Does Amway sell Monavie products?
13. Is this Scamway?
14. You want me to come to an 8pm meeting? Fuck off! American Idol  is on then!
15. Hey I drank your Perfect Water and I still don’t look 10 years younger! You’re a fucking liar!
16. Why are the Puryears selling their river house?
17. What kind of a slimeball gets involved with Amway?
18. Did you hear Amway’s getting sued again?
19. How many people do you have in your downline?
20. I heard you lose a lot of money in Amway.
21. Have you read Merchants of Deception?
22. Amway is a cult.
23. How come when a dog eats Amway dog food it shits three times more than it used to?
24. I can make $115 a month working an Amway business for 10 to 15 hours a week? Do the math asshole! That’s $2 to $3 an hour!
25. Show me your tax return to prove you’re making $100,000 a year in Amway.
26. Who’s the liar that told you Amway owns the Amway Arena in Orlando?
27. If you’re so successful in Amway how come you’re driving a piece of shit 1972 Pinto?
28. I heard Amway sells prestige tampons.
29. No I’m not willing to pay more money for quality products.
30. That Amway food bar you gave me tasted like shit!
31. How come you’re too embarrassed to tell anyone you’re with Amway?
32. Why are you lying to me?
33. Why do you have to get permission from your upline before doing anything?
34. How many customers do you have?
35. How much money do you make each month in Amway sales?
36. I heard the only way to make money in Amway is by selling motivational tools.
37. I’ll be successful just by going to Amway meetings and doing nothing else?
38. I heard Amway destroys relationships.
39. The only people who get rich in Amway are at the top of the pyramid.
40. You can’t brainwash me asshole!
41. How many grand openings are you planning to hold? Wasn’t one enough?
42. Submit to upline? Are you fucking crazy? Cult! Cult! Cult!
43. As a matter of fact I do like my job.
44. What qualifications does your upline have as counsellors?
45. Jesus Christ! Get off your fucking phone! Its after midnight! Doesn’t your fucking upline ever go to sleep?
46. How come Amway dishwasher soap costs twice as much as other brands and it only gets half the dishes clean?
47. Why does Amway sell towels that fall apart?
48. Sniped any prospects at the grocery store lately?
49. How many people you got on your name list?
50. Your Amway upline leader says you’re not allowed to watch TV? Sounds like a cult to me!
51. Let me give you a good suggestion what you can do with those fucking Amway tapes!
52. Where am I going to find 6 people open to being scammed?
53. Who gives a shit if a Diamond is speaking tonight?
54. How come Amway’s shipping costs are so high? I only have to spend $25 with Amazon to get free shipping.
55. Why do you refer to Amway as “the business”? What’s the big secret to calling it what it is?
56. Who’s the fucking moron that told you Amway is the only recession proof business?
57. Hey did you see the Dateline expose on the Amway scam?
58. Amway’s an expensive social club.
59. What do you mean you’re cleaning your Platinum’s house for free every week?
60. Why do Amway meetings last until way past midnight?
61. Show me your Amway profit and loss statement.
62. Amway is creepy.
63. So what if I’m a broke loser for the rest of my life. Its better than being a good for nothing, lying, scumbucket Amway IBO so fuck off!
64. I’ve got better things to do with my life than go to your dumb ass Family Reunion.
65. I’m trading hours for dollars? Well at least its better than being in Amway and trading hours for pennies.
66. Why’s everything in Amway so secretive?
67. Wow! You spend so much time doing Amway shit when do you have time for fun?
68. If David Shores really paid cash for his house how did it get foreclosed?
69. My wife is already free. What’s it to you anyway?
70. Mind your own goddamned business!
71. You’re a cult leader in training.
72. How do you say fuck in igbo?
73. The secret to Amway success is ripping off your customers.
74. So what if I have an employee mentality. Its better than having a brainwashed ambot mentality.
75. Who cares?
76. How many Amway meetings each week?
77. Who is Orrin Woodward?
78. Don’t get bitchy with me! You dragged me out to this fucking Amway meeting because you wanted my opinion. I gave you my opinion! Its a fucking scam!
79. I already am my own boss.
80. If Amway Diamonds make so much money why did Greg Duncan declare bankruptcy?
81. Sure I look at other ways of making money. How do you like my new printing press over there?
82. When you’re financially free in two to five years come back and show me your plan then.
83. I don’t punch a time clock but I’d sure like to punch you!
84. Open your fucking ears and eyes! Amway is a scam!
85. Why do you need permission to talk to your crossline?
86. Been to Barnes & Noble lately?
87. Why don’t you just tell me what your business opportunity is so I don’t have to go to your meeting.
88. How come you have to write checks payable to cash? Sounds like tax evasion to me.
89. Ever hear of the 15 second introduction? You should be able to say who you are and what you do in under 15 seconds. If it takes you a 3 hour meeting to spit it out you’re a fucking loser.
90. No I don’t want to support your business because you’re too high priced.
91. WWDB stands for World Wide Destructive Bastards
92. Walmart has lower prices and better products.
93. Are you stupid?
94. It costs ten bucks to go to an Amway meeting? Rip off!
95. CD’s cost how much?
96. Ha ha! Did you seriously just call yourself an Amway warrior?
97. How come there are stories all over the Internet about how much money people are losing in the Amway scam?
98. Your upline says you have to ask permission before you can buy a new fridge? Holy shit! And you say you’re not in a cult!
99. I’ve heard there’s some fat IBO’s. Does that mean the $500 Amway diet plan doesn’t work?
100. What’s it like living inside a pyramid?
101. Why does Amway ruin marriages?

Oh I’ve got more. I just promised to stop at 101!

Secret Amway Man

This video is kind of funny. Grinning fool hanging out with mobsters. Or maybe those are just former IBO's who jumped ship to join Monavie!

Amway Defectors!

Someone recently did a search for “Amway defectors” and ended up at my blog.

Ha! I love it. Perfect name. Someone should start up a forum called that and we could all head over to chat!

Whenever I heard the word defector growing up it was usually in reference to someone from the USSR escaping and claiming refugee status in another country.

I think defector is most commonly referred to similar stories when people leave one country for another country. Defector can be used to describe people who switch companies, switch baseball teams, etc.

I know there are people who left Amway to join other MLM’s. Monavie comes to mind though I’m not good on the details. I see some of those discussions on Amthrax’s blog. See a link to his blog on the upper right area of my blog. I guess those distributors who switched to Monavie can be labelled Amway defectors. I bet the higher ups in Amway probably do refer to them that way!

But what about the rest of us who just quit. Closed up shop. Walked away.

Got the hell away from Amway!

I guess we could be called defectors though a lot of us didn’t leave Amway to join another MLM. We just washed our hands of the whole network marketing nightmare.

We are the people who saw the light.

Curiosity got to me and I did a Google search for Amway defectors. Not a whole lot of information but I found a link from a newspaper article in 2008 for the top 5 scam artists and Amway is number 3.  Its no big surprise to me that Amway is on the top scammers list! To quote:

Dick DeVos and Steve Van Andel are the inheritors of Quixtar, the company left to them by their billionaire fathers. Call it a pyramid scheme, call it multi-level marketing, or, better yet, call it by its original brand name: Amway. Quixtar created a pseudo-religion where God is money and its prophets are the success stories recorded in expensive tapes and books. Quixtar has convinced millions around the world that they too can make six figures simply by selling “the best” soap, vitamins and other amazing products, when the actual average annual income of a recruiter is $1400. Some even lose money at the cost of the recommended seminars and audio tapes.
 

To see the rest of the list:

http://www.vueweekly.com/front/story/top_5_scam_artists/

Pricing Yourself Out of Business

There was a recent post on Amthrax referring to a post on MLM Punisher’s blog on how much money you want.

The original post by Punisher is about the costs in Monavie. Its similar to a post I wrote about costs in Amway in Save First Spend Later.

Punisher estimated $496.90/month for Monavie and I estimated $476.90/month in Amway. Wow! Very close! $20 difference. The thing is both of us estimated these to be minimum monthly costs for a “serious business builder” and its likely much higher once you add in other costs such as meals and gas for the car. I estimated you’d have to set aside $700/month to be involved in Amway and maybe get a $10 check back each month from Amway for all the effort and money invested.

Hmmm. Spend $500 to $700 and get back $10. SCAM!!!!

Actually the real point of this post is getting back to Amthrax’s post about Punisher. One commenter said something about figuring out how much money you want to earn and dividing that amount by the hours you want to work to come up with an hourly wage. Mowing lawns and house cleaning was used as an example so it brought back another memory of the first time we were in Amway/WWDB.

We live in a small house about 1300 square feet, 2 bedrooms, 2 baths. There was another IBO in our line who’d been unemployed for awhile and thought that Amway was going to be the answer to all her financial troubles. She’d fallen several months behind on mortgage payments and I’m not certain if she had any income coming in at all. Alimony? Unemployment insurance? She was offering to clean houses at $15/hour. We felt bad for her and had her in to clean our house once a week or maybe every other week. I don’t recall the frequency. Took her about 2 hours to clean it or maybe it didn’t take that long because she was always yack yack yack and we paid her 2 hours anyway. Our house wasn’t that big to clean and not filthy dirty either. She didn’t do a good job. I mean if Ambot comes home and points out the counter is dirty and has to clean it himself then that’s pretty bad!

She’d been cleaning our house for maybe 2 months and one day she left a message on our answering machine that her rates were going up to $17.50/hour.

If she did a better job of cleaning maybe it would be worth it but we were only letting her clean our house out of pity. Its not like I couldn’t manage the housecleaning. Its not like she came into a filthy house that had to be scrubbed to death. Basically she was dusting, vacuuming, and washing the tile floors, wiping down counters and cleaning the baths. How that takes 2 hours I don't know.....Ambot left her a message letting her know we got her message and that we’d decided we didn’t need her to clean our house anymore.

The funny thing was she phoned back and left a message on our machine saying she was sorry we couldn’t afford her housecleaning services!

Ha ha, that was a laugh. She’s talking about who can afford what? Our mortgage payments were up to date. We were in a better financial position than her and hadn’t gone too deep into Amway debt at that point. We felt she wasn’t worth it at $15/hour because she didn’t do all that good a job cleaning so she really wasn’t worth it at $17.50. Priced herself right out of business. Using the philosophy of the commenter on Amthrax’s blog she must have figured out how much she needed to earn an hour to meet her monthly expenses and pay back the missed mortgage payments and that was her number and she was sticking to it. Didn’t work out too good for her though. I don’t know how many housecleaning clients she had. Only one other that I knew of who was also in Amway and had a HUGE house.

Predictably the bank foreclosed on her house and the last I heard she’d moved to another state to move in with her daughter. I wonder if Amway got the old heave ho too.....

That’s something for every business owner to keep in mind whether they sell products or offer a service. If you price yourself too high customers will go elsewhere. If you currently offer substandard products or services and jack up the price you’ve just given your customer the excuse they’ve been looking for to ditch you. Everyone who is not a brainwashed IBO knows Amway products are outrageously overpriced. Amway’s sales reports show that less than 5% of their sales are to people who are not IBO’s. So that tells me normal people who are not brainwashed ambots know a shitty deal when they see one.

Price yourself out of business and customers disappear.