Showing posts with label Perfect Water. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Perfect Water. Show all posts

Monday, June 11, 2012

Amway Product to Stop Sperm Leaking

This has got to be one of the more weirder search criteria that snagged an Amway ambot to my blog: “Amway product to stop sperm leaking”.

Oh you know women just hate that! LOL!!!

And women are probably going to find this topic a whole lot more funny than men!

Well I could go on and give my thoughts on this guy’s problem but I decided to make some sort of attempt of keeping this post reasonably clean.

And by clean I don’t mean my language. I mean clean in that I don’t really want to talk about male bodily functions! Men are gross enough as it is without me detailing the bathroom terms. All married women get this one!

Instead of asking the all knowledgeable expert assholes in his Amway upline he hits the Internet. If I could keep a straight face I’d ask an ambot myself. In fact maybe I’ll save this little gem to ask the next Amway asshole who badgers me about the overpriced shitty product he sells what he’s flogging to make the sperm stop leaking. Be interesting to see what answer I get! Some rotten ambot is gonna be sorry he tried to prospect me!

Amway ambots are liars. They sell snake oil. For anything that ails you they will tell you they have an Amway product that will cure you or help you feel better.

If this ambot asks his upline to recommend an Amway product to stop the leaking sperm he will likely be told to buy Double X because its good for sex. In fact buy just about every Amway Nutrilite vitamin available for sell. Combined they’ll do the trick. He’ll be told to buy Perfect Water and buy those twist tubes to mix with the water. And drink lots of XS piss water and eat plenty of shitty Amway food bars.

Ka ching ka ching ka ching. Spend at least $1000 buying all these Amway snake oil products and see if it gets you the results you need.

And if they don’t work the upline will blame him that he’s doing something wrong. He’s not taking the product correctly. The old blame the victim scam.

For fuck’s sake guy! Talk to your doctor! Don’t go around buying shitty overpriced Amway products that ain’t gonna do piss all good for you!

But thanks for giving me an unusual topic post and a subject that I can embarrass the next ambot about!

Thursday, April 19, 2012

Sex Problems - Amway Products

I get dozens of searchers ending up at my blog after searching for “Amway sex” or “Amway sex products”. Or “Double X is good for sex”.

My latest searcher is having sex problems and thinks they’re related to Amway products. Or possibly looking for Amway products to solve the sex problems.

Let me break it down simply:

Sex problems?

Not getting laid?

You’re in Amway?

Mystery solved!

Amway = huge turn off.

Come on guys! You’re in Amway and you’re wondering why you’re not getting any? Couldn’t have anything to do with you bringing a bunch of shitty overpriced Amway products into the house could it?

If you have a woman in your life that you love you need to be always looking for more ways to love her, NOT looking for other things that you can love more than her.

The upline insists Amway must always come first. Tough shit if you’re celebrating something else in your life the same night an Amway meeting is on or if your upline holds an impromptu mandatory meeting.

Women like security. They like owning a house. They like real food in the house. They like having products in the house that they’ve purchased for a reasonable price and they actually use. They like money in the bank. They like having investments.

The Amway pyramid scheme offers no security. Own a house? The upline probably doesn’t and is jealous that you do. They will “counsel” you to sell your house, your security to a place to live where you’re not forced to live under someone else’s rules. Once you sell the house, or take out a line of equity against it if the upline was unsuccessful to convince the IBO to sell it, then you use that money to pay off the credit card debt you’ve been running up to buy Amway products and tools. Then you start over all again using the credit card to buy more Amway shit. In debt again soon enough but now without the security of owning a house. You will never have financial independence as long as you’re a renter or working for Amway. There is no money to buy real food once $300+ has been spent buying shitty overpriced Amway groceries with no nutritional value: Perfect Water, XS Energy Drinks, food bars, vitamins, etc. Overpriced cleaning products? Bullshit when there are better products for lower prices readily available in the marketplace. Investments? Not in Amway. Need to cash them in to buy more Amway shit. No money in the bank.

Women don’t like that. They hate to see Amway destroying their lives. They hate to see fucking Amway products in the house, the cause of the credit card debt and no money in the bank, and no extra money for investments. The emotional turmoil of dealing with the fucked up Amway cult leaders is sheer hell. Unable to convince their husband to get out of this evil Amway cult is frustrating and causes a lot of anger.

Women don’t want NOTHING to do with Amway. And that might get around to including their Amway brainwashed husband.

So if you need to search on the Internet to figure out why Amway isn’t the huge sex turn on you thought it would be, I can tell you why.

Putting a fucking company over the woman you love? BAD idea.

Sunday, March 25, 2012

8 Things You Shouldn’t Do If You’re An Amway Ambot

Well there’s a whole lot more than eight things an ambot shouldn’t do but I saw this article titled 8 Things You Shouldn’t Do At Work and decided to find a way to make it apply to Amway ambots. Except that ambots will never follow these guidelines because they’re a bunch of arrogant assholes who think they’re better than everyone else because they’re in Amway. Being polite, respectful, and courteous to others does not apply when you’re in the Amway cult.


  1. Talking too loudly on the phone - Yup all those rotten lousy ambots full of self importance at being a “business owner” have a phone plastered to their ear EVERYWHERE yapping away loudly so everyone around them can tell how “important” they are doing business on their cell phone. Get a clue you fucking ambots! Nobody wants to listen to your side of the conversation! Go somewhere else and pretend to be big shot dicks!
  2. Listening to loud music or videos - AAACCCKKKK!!!!! I could just scream whenever my Ambot or another ambot insisted on sticking a CD into the car’s player or their portable unit and crank up the volume! FUCK!!!!! Turn off that fucking piece of shit! The rest of us who aren’t brainwashed ambots don’t give a shit about what that fucking Diamond has to say! Where’s the sledge hammer??????
  3. Messing up the (kitchen) auditorium -  Ambots are slobs! Every Scamway meeting we attended the ambots would bring overpriced snacks - XS cat piss drink, (not)Perfect Water, and shitty food bars. They’d leave their trash on the floor under the seats when they leave. Is it so difficult to pick up your fucking Amway trash and carry it outside to the nearest garbage can? Fucking ambots with a sense of entitlement - Oh the arena has hired a janitor to pick up after us. I’ll give you a little message from that janitor. “Fuck you ambot slobs!”
  4. Bringing your kids into the office too much - I had trouble with this one until I read down and article substituted kids with spouse or friends. So lets just go with:
    • Bringing your wife to Amway meetings too much - especially when your wife don’t want to be there. Nobody wants to watch their significant other being brainwashed into a cult and watch their bank account dwindle and their debt increase. Leave her at home or there will be hell to pay somewhere down the road!
  5. Crowding everyone’s inbox - Everyone in our World Wide Destructive Bastards line had to sign up for a Yahoo Group account so the cult leaders could send messages. Yeah like we don’t get enough junk and spam showing up in our inbox without Amway’s fucking cult leaders adding to it. Same thing with text messages. Never ending deluge!
  6. Being a Debbie Downer? - what the fuck I’ve never heard that term before. Bottom line it means someone negative. Ambots are the most negative people I know. Always going around predicting doom and gloom. This business and that business and the other business are all closing down, going bankrupt, whatever. Everyone will be dead or broke by the time they’re 65 - except of course for Amway ambots.
  7. Texting in the elevator - Or texting anywhere else! Those fucking Amway ambots always got their cell phones either on a car or texting trying to look big and important. Fucking morons! Those texts from the upline go on late in the evening often the wee hours of the morning and then start up again around 6am. Mostly our sack of shit Platinum. Fuck you asshole just because you drank a bunch of XS piss water and can’t sleep get off your fucking phone and give us a break!
  8. Dressing Inappropriately - what’s with this wearing a business suit to a BBQ? What’s this with wearing a business suit at night? What’s this with wearing a business suit to a cult meeting? Those fucking Amway ambots can’t figure it out that people can dress casually and comfortably and not look like slobs. Its not all about the suit! Its all about the control issue when you’re being brainwashed by a cult. Wear a fucking suit cause I said so and I’m your cult leader so you better fucking listen to me!!!!
No ambot will ever follow these guidelines. Ambots have their heads so far up their asses that they don’t see how everyone looks at them as a bunch of arrogant obnoxious assholes.

And the one thing you should do when you are no longer in the Amway cult? Apologize to everyone you treated badly because they would not support your phony business in the Amway pyramid scheme. Apologizing to everyone who you pissed off with the above 8 points is a good start.

Sunday, February 19, 2012

Ambots bragging about Amway Tax Refunds

I had an ambot show up to leave a comment on this post:


LOL... she lost $35 000 in 11 years, that's just shy of $3200 a year... you all understand this is a product business and despite what you think about the business structure the products themselves are very rarely second to none. Even a deaf mute could sell enough product in amway to profit $3200 a year to cover those expenses, not to mention the tax return money if you even keep half assed books. I love how she fails to mention how much money she made from selling products and tax return income for running a home based business.... and if she didn't make her money back from sales volume and tax return, then I do not feel sorry for her.... she was just lazy and I know how much you all Love to hear that!


For a moment let’s try to put aside the canned Amspeak bullshit. This is typical of most comments that ambots leave on my blog.

Today’s post is about the part of this comment where the ambot mentions getting a tax return income based on running your Amway business. Seeing as how tax time is coming upon us I thought I’d revisit this whole get-a-tax-refund-if-you’re-in-Amway that is widely promoted by the Amway cult leaders.

This was the type of tax advice our Amway upline gave us that everything in Amway is a tax deduction and as this ambot clarified - they count Amway tax returns as part of an IBO income. What the upline really means is the only way an IBO can make money in Amway is to deduct Amway expenses from the income they earn in their real J.O.B and the only Amway income comes in the form of a tax refund. Our upline told us we’d get a big tax refund deducting all our Amway expenses - legitimate or not.

At Amway meetings I attended the Platinum and pretty much everyone else in the room would be bragging how things couldn’t be better and their business is growing. Then these same IBO’s claim they’re getting a large refund after filing their income taxes.

My Ambot was fascinated. He had no idea the secret to getting a tax refund - according to our upline - was to become an Amway IBO. Free money from the government!

Refund? Ha, that’s a laugh when your business is doing good.

Ambots can not grasp this concept.

If your business makes too much money (income) and you don’t have enough deductions (expenses) you owe money at tax time. Yay! Business is going great!

If you do not make much money and your expenses are higher that your income then the government issues you a refund. Boo! Business is the shits!

In other words it is pretty much impossible for an IBO to claim business is going great and they’re making lots of money and then talk out of the other side of their mouth about how they’re getting a big tax refund. Or as ambots refer to it: tax return income for running an Amway business.

Most Amway IBO’s in addition to being fake business owners work a dreaded J.O.B. and are employed by a company and receive regular paychecks. When tax time comes around those sneaky Amway bastards deduct all their Amway expenses (XS, Perfect Water, vitamins, food bars, hotels, function tickets, meals, travel, etc) against their job’s income.

That is the only way most IBO’s make money in Amway. By declaring everything they spend on Amway as a business expense and deducting it off their job’s income.

Lying little ambot bastards that they are! Tax cheaters!

Here is a big clue ambots! Unless you own a grocery store, items that you eat (groceries!) can not be deducted as business expenses in order to get a tax refund. When you’re an Amway IBO if you’re declaring travel and restaurant expenses on your taxes you better be showing some kind of Amway income profit on selling Amway products. If Uncle Sam catches up with you you’ll be up shit creek!

My husband and I run a legitimate business. We have a tax number. We have business license. We have insurance. We have accounting software where we create client invoices, and enter all monies received from clients and all monies we paid out in the course of running our business. We have legitimate business expenses that can be used as deductions. We back it all up on a CD and give it to our accountant at tax time. This is because we’re smart enough to hire the services of a professional who checks we entered everything correctly and aren’t missing information and ensures we are not leaving ourselves exposed and who also does their damnedest to make sure they write off as many expenses as they legitimately can so that we have less money to pay back to the government in what we owe in taxes.

Sure the hell beats “counselling with upline” and being told everything in Amway (XS, Perfect Water, vitamins, laundry soap, cleaning products, etc) is a legitimate business deduction!

For the record - our accountant disagreed with our Amway upline! Refused to handle anything Amway related saying “I deal with legitimate businesses not pyramid schemes.”

So much for “never question upline”!

If you are running a pretend Amway business and are taking your upline’s advice on filling out your taxes so that you can earn your money in Amway courtesy of a government tax refund check be prepared to end up in big shit in an audit.

When we were in Amway we were told if nothing else Amway is a good tax shelter. The taxman might disagree. Here is some more interesting reading:

IRS to Amway: The Party’s Over!

IRS answers for business or hobby and deductions. http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=169490,00.html

Peter Reilly’s blog post about Amway IBO’s in tax court.

Another post by Peter Reilly about taxes and Amway. This one is kind of interesting if you go to the comments. In typical ambot fashion anytime posts like this surface on the Internet the Amway rats scramble out of the sewer to battle the truth by coming out swinging with false accusations in a bizzare attempt to create distractions away from the truth about Amway. The first ambot who posts a response accuses Mr Reilly of murdering his mother!

Saturday, January 21, 2012

Amway IBO Rats

I saw a good comment left recently on Joecools (aka my) Amway scheme blog so I have decided to run with it here.

IBO rats stalk people in malls, eat shitty food bars, pay double for water and always on nutrilite pills.

Yup absolutely. IBO’s stalk people in malls and grocery stores looking for new victims to attack with their viruses. Rats are scavengers, likewise IBO rats. The rodents might eat the guts off a dead porcupine that’s been hit by a car but IBO rats eat those shitty food bars. Same thing. It takes a creepy unclean rat to eat either one of those! Pay double for water? Surely you jest. A 24 pack of water costs less than 5 bucks at Walmart. Amway sells 24 packs of Perfect Water for closer to $50 so thats 10 times the cost.

Rats are nocturnal creatures, much the same as Amway IBO rats and their late night meetings. Turn on the lights and they run for cover so they won’t see the truth. Scurrying around late at night plotting to fuck up other people’s lives. Have you ever seen Hoarders TV show. Just about every episode has houses with rats in them either dead or alive that have destroyed the owner’s property who never really seem to care that they’re sharing their house with these vile creatures. Like their rodent relatives Amway rats also infest peoples homes. They find some way to squeeze inside the home and plot how they will destroy all the nice things the owner has in their house and replace them with shitty Amway products.  

Some of those upline rats walked through our house with Ambot. They came armed with a worksheet that listed household goods that people commonly buy to show how Amway sells similar products. I didn’t accompany Ambot and the Amway rats on their route of destruction about how we should get rid of illegal products and immediately replace them with overpriced substandard Amway shit. I wonder how the rats liked looking in the bathroom cupboards to see what brand of tampons were in there!

From Wikipedia “Rats are seen as vicious, unclean, parasitic animals that steal food and spread disease.”

I’d say that description is very accurate of Amway IBO rats too. The people I met in Amway were about the most vicious human beings I’ve ever come across. Greedy materialistic bastards who brainwashed Ambot to spend all our money on Amway products and tools and when the savings had been used to use the credit card. Better known as helping the upline get the PV up there so they could meet their monthly goals. And when the money flow stops? Those Amway rats launch an attack squealing out “loser” and “quitter” and “you’ll be broke for the rest of your life”. Amway rats are not happy until they cause divorces, bankruptcies, and foreclosures.

Unclean? Well maybe IBO rats bathe regularly in Amway soap products but there is more than one way to be unclean. It refers to breaking the law too. Every Amway rat I met has been guilty of doing something unclean such as lying, scamming, fraud, mistreatment of others, etc.

Parasitic? Spread disease and viruses. Yup Amway IBO rats do that. The diseases and viruses they spread have to do with destroying marriages, destroying families, destroying bank accounts....

Steal food? In a way Amway rats steal good food by telling their downline to change their spending and eating habits to accommodate Amway products. Down with fresh fruit and vegetables and use Amway Nutrilite vitamins instead.

Amway IBO rats can be compared to London’s black plague which probably started from infested fleas that lived on the rats that overran the city. An estimated 100,000 people were estimated to have died before the great fire in 1666 helped wipe out the plague.

It is unknown the number of people who have been destroyed by Amway IBO rats. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Vicious parasitic creepy Amway rats creep out to leave comments on blogs like mine but scurry back into their sewers when they’re confronted with the truth and unable to prove their lies. What’s it going to take to destroy the Amway rats and wipe them out for good?

The only good rat is a dead one. And maybe not ever then. One still has to dispose of it.

Thursday, January 19, 2012

Nasty Amway Shit Lurks in the Cupboard!

*****WARNING!!!! THIS POST CONTAINS A FRIGHTENING IMAGE!*****

Its been a few years since we jumped off the Amway hell wagon. We used up or threw away most of the Amway shit fairly quickly. One exception was when Ambot was cleaning out his medicine cabinet last May and came across old Nutrilite vitamins that he had to dispose.

I thought that was the end of all shitty Amway products that have been contaminating our house.

Nope. But I’m sure its not the first time in my life I’ve been wrong about something!

I was looking for a cookbook a small paperback that must have slipped behind the bigger books. I pulled out books and YIKES! There it was lurking in the dark depths and first time to see the light in many years. A Nutrilite raspberry joint health twist tube.


Yuck! Nasty! Sour stuff!

Ambot used to buy a box of all 4 or 5 flavors every order he put in every week. These little buggers are supposed to cure all known illnesses. They were to be used in conjunction with a bottle of Perfect Water to give it that extra edge for the miracle cure. Case of Perfect Water cost around $50. I think those twist tubes were $10 for 20 in a box. Different flavors to cure different ailments. The twist tube staring me in the face says raspberry and its for joint health. I don’t remember the other flavors or what they cured except for one other flavor was for immunity. Hell if it provided immunity from Amway I might have guzzled those suckers like there’s no tomorrow! As for the raspberry twist tube I like sour things so it wasn’t as bad as XS piss water but it did have an extra nasty little kick unpleasant aftertaste to it and it was usually impossible for me to finish off the entire bottle of spiked Amway water.

Even though I was usually able to almost finish drinking the sour raspberry water it did absolutely nothing for me in the way of joints and mobility and I took at least 5 of these a week for many months. Neither did it help the arthritic person we sold a box of raspberry twist tubes and Perfect Water to. Did piss all zippo! No difference taking this much hyped Amway snake oil product than drinking water out of the tap. $10 might seem like a small price to pay for 20 vitamin sticks but when they do nothing they’re yet another waste of money on some Amway product with over inflated claims of the miracles it can perform.

Yup just another Amway scam!

What’s really scary is that this joint supplement shit has no expiration date on the twist tube.

This better be the last shitty Amway product I find polluting my house. I'm gonna have to bring in someone to perform an exorcism on this place!

Monday, January 16, 2012

Mortgage your House all in the Name of Amway!

I’ve heard from a reader who mortgaged their house to buy Amway products.

Why the fuck do people do things like this?

Its all part of Amway’s sell the hope not the soap campaign. We go to Amway functions and the Diamonds stand on stage and tell their hard luck story. They all have the same story told slightly differently. I swear these bastards got together to figure out what fables to tell to the ambots in the audience anxious to devour every bullshit word from their beloved cult leaders.

The Diamond’s hard luck stories usually go to the effect that both the husband and wife were working minimum wage jobs when a dear friend came along to show them the Amway business plan. Every one of them seems to have borrowed $20 from their aunt to put gas in the car to get to the first Amway function. And the rest is history. The stuff that Amway fairy tales are made of. Ambots are ordered by their cult leaders to do whatever it takes to get to Amway functions. They fail to say the real reason they need high attendance is because those functions are how the Diamonds make most of their money from the tool scam. They give shitty advice to skip a few meals or skip the mortgage payment or take out a 2nd mortgage on your house. That way you’ll have the money to get to Amway functions.

The brainwashing that goes into these ambots to make them do dumb things just to make their cult leaders richer is incredible.

Mortgaging your house to buy Amway products? Just how many shitty overpriced Amway products does one person need? I guess that depends on if they play to single handedly - no downline or customers - get to their 1000 pin that month. Or maybe 2500 pin or 5000. Take any of those PV pin amounts and multiply by 3 to get the approximate dollar value of what those products cost.

How did the upline brainwash the ambots to mortgage the house for no other reason than to help their upline meet some goal that month. Probably had something to do with an upline Diamond falling out of qualification and everyone downline who owned a house was ordered to mortgage it and buy Amway products. You help your upline and one day there will be someone downline who will do the same for you.

Fuck that shit!

Can we say inventory loading?

I’ve never been brainwashed by a cult so I can’t pretend to understand what is going through the minds of these people who do crazy dumb ass things like mortgaging their house to buy Amway products just so they can get a little recognition and praise from their upline.

I thought it was bad enough to drain the savings account and run up the credit card debt just to keep the Amway cult leaders happy. Risking your house, probably your biggest investment, the place where you have a roof over your head and a warm dry place for your family to live and keep their stuff just because some upline asshole needs more PV to reach their monthly goal is stupid.

I’ve seen too many stories from former IBO’s who’ve lost their house thanks to the Amway scam. A little maneuver our upline tried to do with us too to take out a 2nd mortgage so we could buy lots more Amway shit. Ambot was convinced this was the right thing to do just because some upline Amway asshole said so. Too bad for him he’s not the only name on the deed and I ain’t putting up the house because some fucking Amway asshole that I despise says to do so.

Ah yes. No wonder those fucking assholes tried so hard to destroy our marriage. Once the ambot’s money supply runs out and the wife/husband refuses to use their credit card or sign away the house or car there’s nowhere else for those bastards to go except to destroy the relationship.

As all good little cult leaders must do.

Call it revenge for the PV not being as high as they want.

Can you image what becomes of a house that goes into foreclosure due to the Amway scam. The sherrif evicts the family and goes in with a crew to remove the belongings and put them into storage. And what are they removing? Boxes and boxes of $50 bottles of Perfect Water, boxes of XS piss water, boxes of shitty Amway Nutrilite food bars, and enough bottles of Nutrilite vitamins to clog every toilet in the Trump Tower.

And then when the evicted don’t pay the storage fees it gets auctioned off. Can you see that one on Storage Wars? Jarrod and Brandy pay a few hundred bucks for the unknown items inside the abandoned locker and end up with boxes and boxes of Amway shit.

Bring the dumpster over!

Friday, December 16, 2011

15 Worst Amway Items to Find Under the Christmas Tree

I read an article obviously written by someone with a sense of humor who has a list of the 15 worst items for the holiday wish list from Amazon. http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/technology/1112/gallery.weird-amazon/index.html

Oddly enough all of those Amazon items I can absolutely see Amway wanting to get on board and offer the same things to the ambots. Oh sure. IBOFB is going to show up here and claim that Amway already offers cremation services and bags of bones!

So seeing as how every Amway meeting I attended the cult leader would be comparing Amway and Amazon (Amazon rules!) I have taken the opportunity by choosing the 15 worst Amway items to find under the Christmas tree.

What?! Only 15?! I have to stop at 15???!!!!  Shit! How do I narrow it down? Amway has so many shitty overpriced products I’d hate to find any of them under the Christmas tree. So here is my 15 in no particular order and like I say I hate to stop at only 15.

  1. XS (Piss Water) Energy Drinks
  2. Perfect Water
  3. Any kind of Nutrilite vitamin
  4. SA8 Laundry Soap
  5. Amway Dish Drops dishwasher detergent
  6. Amway Trim Advantage
  7. Glister toothpaste
  8. Satinique shampoo
  9. Amway Debut tampons
  10. Any kind of Nutrilite food bars
  11. Artistry lipstick
  12. Nutripet dog food
  13. Artistry eye shadow
  14. Artistry time defiance cream
  15. Any Amway CD
The really scary thing is that when we were in the Amway cult can see my Ambot going out and buying those shitty Amway products to give to me or others as Christmas presents.

Talk about a really fucking nasty surprise when you get up on Christmas morning and see what's under the tree!

Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Another Way to Lose Money in Amway - Selling Amway Products for Christmas

I wrote this last year but seeing as how Christmas is creeping closer and Amway is just creepy I’m bringing it out for any new readers who might not have seen this. This was just another way to waste a perfectly good Saturday doing Amway shit not to mention losing some money too. But then that’s what Amway’s all about. Losing time and money.

Our upline booked a community hall and turned it into Amway Christmas shopping central and all IBO’s were told to invite friends and family to attend and purchase Amway products as Christmas presents.

Most of the products out on display were the edibles - nasty food bars, disgusting XS energy drinks, vitamins, Perfect Water. You know - the type of stuff every kid wants to find under the Christmas tree.

Each IBO had to pay $10 towards the rental of the community hall. There were about 40 IBO’s at this event. You guessed it. The IBO’s outnumbered the shoppers.

The old community hall is on a fairly quiet street about 2 blocks from a busier street. There was a sign on the door advertising to come in for Christmas shopping. Perhaps they would have got more buyers if they’d gone a couple of blocks away and put a sign on the corner of the more travelled road. Or maybe not. First Saturday in December is the biggest shopping day of the year at the malls. Let’s weigh this out. Mall with lots of shops. Lots of variety. Good selection of products. Decently priced. Compare to Amway shopping central at a small mice-infested community hall. Overpriced products. Limited selection.

Five friends of ours showed up. The IBO’s pounced on them thinking they’d get some good sales. One of our friends actually purchased a few products. The pity purchaser who only bought the items to help out Ambot. Decent sale too over $100. I don’t recall the actual amount. May have been closer to $200.

Now here’s the crazy part. Our friend was the only person who purchased anything that day. Out of all the IBO’s there Ambot had the only sale. At the meeting at the end of the day when we were packing up the Platinum berated the group on the lack of sales. Now here’s where you’d think the pompous sack of shit would have some kind words for Ambot because his friend made purchases. Nope. He tore into Ambot saying he had five friends show up and only one of them bought something. I mean really laid into him about how those weren’t real friends because they didn’t support his business and about his general lack of success even though he was the only IBO who made a sale that day. After the verbal lashing ended, like the good cult leader he is, he assured Ambot that they still loved him and they would always be his only true friends unlike the phoney friends who don’t support his business.

Despite all those proclaims of never-ending love and friendship, when Ambot stopped going to Amway meetings and buying products those phonies cut off their love and friendship. Boo hoo. I can’t tell you how much it breaks my heart that those liars don’t want anything to do with us anymore.

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Eat Snacks Much?

Do you know someone who eats snacks and drinks every day?

At Amway meetings our sack of shit Platinum would ask questions like this to everyone in the room. The old amiable brainwashing approach to get the followers to agree with everything you say.

What does he expect people to say? No I don't know anyone who drinks something every day. Every one I know is dehydrated!

Do people eat snacks every day? One person's definition of a snack might differ from someone elses. There's been tons of articles written about what constitutes a healthy snack. Ambots go around screaming about how Amway offers healthy snacks.

When I want to eat a bag of tortilla chips one of those nasty styrofoam Amway snacks ain't going to do the trick for me. Same if I want a ginger ale. Drinking XS piss water just isn't the same thing!

Then the sack of shit taunts the cult followers by saying how easy it is to find someone who wants to eat an Amway power bar and an Amway drink every day. He then fills in a chart about how much money these snacks costs if you were to buy them from a grocery store or a coffee shop.

Well holy shit I don't know where he buys his groceries but I can buy a box of granola bars from Walmart for around $2 and that's 5 or 6 bars. Amway has a box of 5 or 6 bars too but they cost $30. Walmart granola bars taste way better too. What about that Perfect Water? Costs close to $50 for a case of 24 and the sack of shit tries to break that down by $2 a bottle so that's not too bad about the same cost as buying a water from 7-11. However I can go to Walmart or Costco and buy a 24 pack of water for under $5 so maybe 20 cents a bottle is the breakdown.
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It takes the Platinum at least an hour into an Amway meeting before he even starts talking about Amway and the business plan. Once he gets all gung ho on the eat and drink a shitty Amway product daily then he gets all excited about how many points (PV) you get and how much money you make.

The numbers keep going higher and higher based on how many people an ambot can scam into eating one Amway bar and drinking one Amway beverage a day.

Realistic chances of finding other people to eat and drink that shit? Not good.

Realistic chances of finding people willing to pay 3, 4, 5, 10 times more money for a shitty Amway product that they can buy a similar better tasting product in the grocery store? Even worse.

The sack of shit Platinum gets the cult members so focused on the numbers that he is tossing around and all excited about the gazillions of dollars they can earn by flogging the Amway snack plan that before anyone can really digest the bullshit he is trying to brainwash them with he moves on to another topic. That sack of shit gets easily distracted.

Or perhaps its just part of his master plan in the Amway scam.


Friday, October 7, 2011

4 Things Never to Buy

4 Things Never to Buy from Amazon Amway

I read this article about 4 things never to buy from Amazon but I decided the same list also applies to Amway.

1. Groceries - that would be anything you buy from Amway that you can stick inside your mouth and consume (food bars, vitamins, XS, Perfect Water, etc)

2. Hardware and Hand Tools - I don’t recall ever seeing any hardware items being sold by Amway but its a good idea not to buy them if they do offer them. Get them much cheaper at Lowes or Home Depot! As for hand tools, lets knock off the “hand”. Do not buy tools from Amway. That’s called investing in the tool scam. Don’t do it!

3. Home Furnishings - I’ve seen some home furnishing from Amway or the Ribbons catalogue. For the most part they’re substandard quality and overpriced. Save money and buy from Walmart.

4. Cleaning Supplies - yup, don’t buy them from Amazon and don’t buy them from Amway either for the same reason listed in the article - too expensive!

The entire article is here:

Friday, August 19, 2011

Watch Out For Scams!

There are a lot of home based business ideas out there that appeal to people who want to stay at home and earn an income other than going into a bricks and mortar shop or office. Working from home is one of the lines that IBO’s use when hunting down prospects. Its one of those phrases that get people thinking that sounds like a good idea. Working from home means you can often set your own hours, be at home with your kids, and get your housework and cooking done. If you don’t have a car to commute to work or there are no nearby job opportunities finding or creating a job where you can work from home is ideal. Not to mention the thousands of dollars you’d be making each month on your Amway business. Or so the lying ambot that did the recruiting claims.

One of the things that people have to watch out for when searching for working at home is scams. The type of scams that most people seem familiar with are the ones for data entry, stuffing envelopes, or assembling products at home. Those scams have been around long before the Internet when scammers posted ads in the classified section of newspapers looking for unsuspecting victims.

When people think about work from home scams they’re not putting MLM’s into the same category as a work from home scam to watch out for. MLM’s don’t have their distributors working out of an actual building headquarters. They work out of their houses or cars.

Here’s a link to the BBB work at home scams.  http://www.bbb.org/us/article/work-at-home-schemes-408

Here is a quote from the article:

To avoid falling for work-at-home scams, both on- and off-line, look for the following warning signs:
·         Overstated claims of product effectiveness;
·         Exaggerated claims of potential earnings, profits, or part-time earnings;
·         Claims of "inside" information;
·         Requirements of money for instructions or products before telling you how the plan works;
·         Claims of "no experience necessary."

I can pick all these warning signs apart on how they apply to Amway.

1. Overstated claims of product effectiveness. All the time! Perfect Water is the cure all for everything that ails you. Take any Amway product. If you talk to an ambot they will brag about how every single Amway product is better than anything else on the marketplace. No point in arguing with those brainwashed ambots.

2. Exaggerated claims of potential earnings. I think I’ve covered that quite well in this blog about how our upline lied about how much money one can earn in Amway. 100k in 6 months working part time 10 to 15 hours a week. I have lots of readers who’ve left comments about the lies they were told about how much can be earned in Amway against the reality of what they actually earned. There are many former IBO’s who’ve taken to the Internet to expose that lie of how much money one can expect to earn in Amway. We’ve got it. False income expectations.

3. Claims of inside information. I guess that depends on what one considers inside information. We’re not talking trading stocks here however IBOFB goes around claiming to have all kinds of inside information to Amway. Just about everyone at Platinum and above level tell us at Amway meetings how they have information about this that and the other and how its highly confidential and they’ll release it to the masses once Amway gives them the green light. Like see how important I am with this top secret information from Amway that the rest of you ambots don’t have. Like who gives a shit.

4. Requirements of money. Yup. You have to pay lots of money for Amway tools to learn how the plan works only to find out there is no plan other than buying lots of tools so your upline can get richer.

5. Claims of no experience necessary. Yup. We were told being an Amway IBO was so easy anyone could do it. If we objected that we had no sales experience or no interest in product sales we were told that didn’t matter we don’t have to sell anything. Guess that is true. Ambots are expected to buy Amway products but sales to outsiders was pretty much glossed over.

And yes the BBB does have MLM’s down as scams to watch out for. Here’s what they say:

MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING: Typical Ad -- "Our products make it possible for people like you to earn more than they ever have in their lives! Soon you can let others earn money for you while you and your family relax and enjoy your affluent lifestyle! No experience necessary."
Multi-level marketing, a direct sales system, is a well-established, legitimate form of business. Many people have successfully sold the products of reputable companies to their neighbors and co-workers. These people are independent distributors who sell popular products and also recruit other distributors to join them. On the other hand, illegitimate pyramid schemes can resemble these legitimate direct sales systems. An obvious difference is that the emphasis is on recruiting others to join the program, not on selling the product. For a time, new recruits who make the investment to buy product samples keep money coming into the system, but very few products are sold. Sooner or later the people on the bottom are stuck with a saturated market, and they cannot make money by selling products or recruiting. When the whole system collapses, only a few people at the top have made money—and those at the bottom have lost their investment.

Very true. Being an Amway IBO is all about recruiting other people to become IBO’s and not selling Amway products. Amway’s own sales figures show less than 5% of their sales are to customers who are not Amway IBO’s so finding customers to sell products to is a low priority. The main reason for being an Amway IBO is to buy Amway products to self consume and find others to do the same. And everybody must buy CD’s, books, attend all functions. Buy tools! Buy extra tools! That’s what’s taught at Amway meetings.

At least with scams like envelope stuffing and data entry victims tend to lose smaller amounts of money maybe $10 maybe $100.

With the Amway scam victims typically lose thousands of dollars. Depends on how long they feed into the scam. Other Amway victims lose their houses, their credit rating, and their families.

Stay away from evil Amway scammers! Scum of the earth!

Sunday, August 7, 2011

People Springing Amway on them at Dinner

I had a searcher come to my blog after googling “people springing Amway on them at dinner”.

Man that has got to suck!

So I imagined up a scenario about this nasty dinner surprise.

You’re at home one day and friends give you a call and invite you to dinner. You have no reason to suspect anything other than what it is a fun evening get together. Spending a few hours visiting friends, enjoying a meal and their company and afterwards maybe watch a movie, go for a walk, or do some other activity.

You arrive at your friend’s house. Things seem a little different than the last time you were there but you can’t just quite put your finger on it. There are pictures cut out of magazines that are stuck to the fridge: sports cars, the late Aaron Spelling’s mansion, the Eiffel Tower, a cruise ship. Seems a little weird but whatever. There are little yellow sticky notes posted around the house with messages handwritten on them: dream, grow your business, become a millionaire in 2 to 5, jobs are for losers. Weirder and weirder. You go in to the bathroom to wash up for dinner and there’s a small soap dispenser called Body Series. You’ve never heard of the brand but soap is soap. You squirt some out on your hands and its a nasty yellow brown color that stinks. Yuck. But oh well. You wash your hands and dry them on a towel on the counter. Damned towel has fluffies that are coming off all over the place mostly on your wet hands. You stick your hands under the cold water to wash the fluffies off and wipe your hands off on your pants this time.

The host invites everyone to sit down at the dinner table and asks what you want to drink. Choices are water or energy drink. What the hell? Every time you get together with this couple the choices are usually wine or beer. You decide on water and the host produces a product called Perfect Water. He tells you about the health benefits of this miracle water: it cures blindness, it cures cancer, quadriplegics can walk again after drinking it. Host blabs about the powerfullness of this water stems from the fact that its been oxygenated 14 times. Seems bizarre. Surely once would suffice. You take a sip. Tastes like any water that might come out of the tap. Not bad but nothing exceptional about it either no matter how wonderful the host thinks it is.

And speaking of the host what has happened to your friends? They are being overly nice and polite tonight. She’s wearing a dress and he’s wearing a business suit. Uh what happened to a casual night out? They didn’t need to dress up on your account.

The hostess brings the dinner out of the kitchen. She’s a great cook and you wonder what it is tonight. Chicken and roast beef are her specialities served with little baby carrots on the side, asparagus, new potatoes, and cornbread  She’s carrying a serving bowl. Inside is ---- macaroni and cheese? Hunh? Not even the nice homemade kind like mom used to make in the casserole with cheese she’d freshly grated and bread crumbs on top. This just looks like the nasty quick dinners that come out of a box with the cheese powder.

You take a bite and it tastes like shit. The macaroni is bland and the cheese powder mix has a sickly sweet taste to it that does not resemble cheese at all. Nasty! You force some in all the while wondering where the cornbread is. Or any bread. Anything to help push this meal down the throat. You wonder what went wrong with your friends because this is so unlike them. Perhaps they were running late tonight and they stopped quickly at the bargain basement shop and bought some of those ten cent boxes of expired macaroni and cheese. Gross! Definitely have to stop at McDonald’s on the way home for a burger because you’re refusing seconds and you’re famished. You count the minutes until you can politely leave all the while thinking your buddies are just having a bad day.

Hmm, maybe you can make up for it at dessert time. The hostess makes a delicious red velvet cake. Unfortunately that’s not what’s up for dessert tonight. She brings out a platter with four individually wrapped bars on it - one for each of you. Granola bars perhaps picked up at the bargain shack? Nope. The package says Nutrilite chocolate protein bars. Whatever. You’re famished after that nasty macaroni and cheese. You can eat anything chocolate. You rip the wrapper off and take a bite. Oh fuck! Nasty! The host is beaming at you and asks how you like it. You tell him. “Tastes like shit.” Oops he doesn’t look too thrilled at that review. “No seriously,” you tell him. “Don’t buy this one again its fucking gross.” You finish off the rest of the Perfect Water washing down that shitty food bar and trying to get the nasty taste out of your mouth.

Normally now is the time when you’d head into the rec room and watch a DVD but instead you want to leave and go out for junk food. The hosts aren’t making any move to get up from the table even though they’ve cleared the dinner plates away. The host tells you they’ve started their own business, Internet sales, and announces that everything you ate for dinner tonight can be purchased through their online store. Moreover the soap and towels you used in the bathroom can also be purchased through their online store.

All you can think is holy shit you’re going out of business real soon with shitty products like that! Instead you nod politely and wish them luck. They’ll need it!

But the host ain’t done. He says he’s looking to add a few sharp people to his leadership team and he whips out a brochure. You glance at it and realize  you’ve seen this business plan before when you got tricked into going to a BBQ that was really an Amway event in disguise. “Hey that’s Amway!” The host covers his surprise. “No we’re World Wide Dream Builders but we do use Amway to move our products for us.”

You’re still suspicious but decide to play along. “Well I’m glad you’re not with Amway because its a pyramid scheme and you’re going to lose a lot of money.”

“You’re wrong,” says the host. “We’re going to retire in the next two to five years and have residual income rolling in for the rest of our lives. We’re going to be rich by working part time ten to fifteen hours a week in our spare time.”

“Well good luck with that,” you tell them again.

But the little devil is persistent and tries to show the plan again. “All you need to do is eat one food bar and drink one beverage each day and find 6 people who can do the same. Its easy.”

“If its so easy everyone would be doing it,” you point out. The host tries again to get you to look at his plan yapping about PV and BV and once again you tell him you’re not interested. He looks pissed. “You don’t want to be a loser working a job for the rest of your life do you? Don’t you want to get your wife free from her job so she never has a boss again?”

“Not interested in a pyramid scheme,” you tell him again while he argues that its not a scheme and some bullshit about a 1979 FTC ruling that you don’t care about it.

“Oh look at the time. We’ve got to leave.” You hustle out and go to McDonald’s for a better meal.

You try to invite your friends over for dinner a couple of weeks later but they turn you down. “Sorry we don’t associate with people who aren’t in Amway.”

And you don’t hear from your friends ever again.

The end.

Wednesday, August 3, 2011

101 Ways to Piss Off an IBO

This topic is inspired by that new show on TV called 101 Ways to Leave a Game Show. Its hilarious! I’d like to do most of those stunts to our former upline minus the safety equipment of course!

This post might help out the people who end up at my blog after doing a Google search for “how to get rid of those annoying Amway salespeople” or “how to tell Amway people to go away”.

Here are 101 things to say to an IBO to piss him off:

  1. Does this have anything to do with Amway?
  2. Amway is a pyramid scheme.
  3. XS Energy Drinks taste like cat piss!
  4. Why did Ganesh and Neha Shenoy get divorced?
  5. Why is everyone in Amway so phony nice to me?
  6. $60 a year membership to buy overpriced products? Are you fucking kidding me?
  7. Go to hell! Oh I forgot. You’re in Amway. Same thing.
  8. Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else!
  9. Why are Nutrilite vitamins so expensive? And don’t give me no bullshit about the high quality because that’s a lie.
  10. I read on the Internet that IBO’s lie about Artistry Cosmetics being one of the top 5 cosmetics in the world.
  11. Are you really dumb enough to believe that everything to do with Amway is a tax deduction?
  12. Does Amway sell Monavie products?
  13. Is this Scamway?
  14. You want me to come to an 8pm meeting? Fuck off! American Idol  is on then!
  15. Hey I drank your Perfect Water and I still don’t look 10 years younger! You’re a fucking liar!
  16. Why are the Puryears selling their river house?
  17. What kind of a slimeball gets involved with Amway?
  18. Did you hear Amway’s getting sued again?
  19. How many people do you have in your downline?
  20. I heard you lose a lot of money in Amway.
  21. Have you read Merchants of Deception?
  22. Amway is a cult.
  23. How come when a dog eats Amway dog food it shits three times more than it used to?
  24. I can make $115 a month working an Amway business for 10 to 15 hours a week? Do the math asshole! That’s $2 to $3 an hour!
  25. Show me your tax return to prove you’re making $100,000 a year in Amway.
  26. Who’s the liar that told you Amway owns the Amway Arena in Orlando?
  27. If you’re so successful in Amway how come you’re driving a piece of shit 1972 Pinto?
  28. I heard Amway sells prestige tampons.
  29. No I’m not willing to pay more money for quality products.
  30. That Amway food bar you gave me tasted like shit!
  31. How come you’re too embarrassed to tell anyone you’re with Amway?
  32. Why are you lying to me?
  33. Why do you have to get permission from your upline before doing anything?
  34. How many customers do you have?
  35. How much money do you make each month in Amway sales?
  36. I heard the only way to make money in Amway is by selling motivational tools.
  37. I’ll be successful just by going to Amway meetings and doing nothing else?
  38. I heard Amway destroys relationships.
  39. The only people who get rich in Amway are at the top of the pyramid.
  40. You can’t brainwash me asshole!
  41. How many grand openings are you planning to hold? Wasn’t one enough?
  42. Submit to upline? Are you fucking crazy? Cult! Cult! Cult!
  43. As a matter of fact I do like my job.
  44. What qualifications does your upline have as counsellors?
  45. Jesus Christ! Get off your fucking phone! Its after midnight! Doesn’t your fucking upline ever go to sleep?
  46. How come Amway dishwasher soap costs twice as much as other brands and it only gets half the dishes clean?
  47. Why does Amway sell towels that fall apart?
  48. Sniped any prospects at the grocery store lately?
  49. How many people you got on your name list?
  50. Your Amway upline leader says you’re not allowed to watch TV? Sounds like a cult to me!
  51. Let me give you a good suggestion what you can do with those fucking Amway tapes!
  52. Where am I going to find 6 people open to being scammed?
  53. Who gives a shit if a Diamond is speaking tonight?
  54. How come Amway’s shipping costs are so high? I only have to spend $25 with Amazon to get free shipping.
  55. Why do you refer to Amway as “the business”? What’s the big secret to calling it what it is?
  56. Who’s the fucking moron that told you Amway is the only recession proof business?
  57. Hey did you see the Dateline expose on the Amway scam?
  58. Amway’s an expensive social club.
  59. What do you mean you’re cleaning your Platinum’s house for free every week?
  60. Why do Amway meetings last until way past midnight?
  61. Show me your Amway profit and loss statement.
  62. Amway is creepy.
  63. So what if I’m a broke loser for the rest of my life. Its better than being a good for nothing, lying, scumbucket Amway IBO so fuck off!
  64. I’ve got better things to do with my life than go to your dumb ass Family Reunion.
  65. I’m trading hours for dollars? Well at least its better than being in Amway and trading hours for pennies.
  66. Why’s everything in Amway so secretive?
  67. Wow! You spend so much time doing Amway shit when do you have time for fun?
  68. If David Shores really paid cash for his house how did it get foreclosed?
  69. My wife is already free. What’s it to you anyway?
  70. Mind your own goddamned business!
  71. You’re a cult leader in training.
  72. How do you say fuck in igbo?
  73. The secret to Amway success is ripping off your customers.
  74. So what if I have an employee mentality. Its better than having a brainwashed ambot mentality.
  75. Who cares?
  76. How many Amway meetings each week?
  77. Who is Orrin Woodward?
  78. Don’t get bitchy with me! You dragged me out to this fucking Amway meeting because you wanted my opinion. I gave you my opinion! Its a fucking scam!
  79. I already am my own boss.
  80. If Amway Diamonds make so much money why did Greg Duncan declare bankruptcy?
  81. Sure I look at other ways of making money. How do you like my new printing press over there?
  82. When you’re financially free in two to five years come back and show me your plan then.
  83. I don’t punch a time clock but I’d sure like to punch you!
  84. Open your fucking ears and eyes! Amway is a scam!
  85. Why do you need permission to talk to your crossline?
  86. Been to Barnes & Noble lately?
  87. Why don’t you just tell me what your business opportunity is so I don’t have to go to your meeting.
  88. How come you have to write checks payable to cash? Sounds like tax evasion to me.
  89. Ever hear of the 15 second introduction? You should be able to say who you are and what you do in under 15 seconds. If it takes you a 3 hour meeting to spit it out you’re a fucking loser.
  90. No I don’t want to support your business because you’re too high priced.
  91. WWDB stands for World Wide Destructive Bastards
  92. Walmart has lower prices and better products.
  93. Are you stupid?
  94. It costs ten bucks to go to an Amway meeting? Rip off!
  95. CD’s cost how much?
  96. Ha ha! Did you seriously just call yourself an Amway warrior?
  97. How come there are stories all over the Internet about how much money people are losing in the Amway scam?
  98. Your upline says you have to ask permission before you can buy a new fridge? Holy shit! And you say you’re not in a cult!
  99. I’ve heard there’s some fat IBO’s. Does that mean the $500 Amway diet plan doesn’t work?
  100. What’s it like living inside a pyramid?
  101. Why does Amway ruin marriages?
Oh I’ve got more. I just promised to stop at 101!

Monday, June 27, 2011

Trade Show at Puryear Family Reunion 2011

Seeing as how I have such “fond” memories of the trade show at Family Reunion I thought I’d check the WWDB web page and see if there’s any mention of the kind of trade show treats that await the poor bastards going to the Amway WWDB Family Reunion in Boise Idaho in July 2011.

This year’s fakey trade show seems slightly different than the one I attended. They’re calling the Friday night trade show workshops and seminars. It sounds like it might be more or less the same thing as the trade show I went to. Booths and demos. Stingy demos judging by the dixie cup of Perfect Water and packet of one use Artistry face cream that we received.

How’s this for a way to kill a Friday night?

1. Learning about standing orders and digital delivery. Yeah right. I’d rather be learning this bullshit than attending a Friday night Rolling Stones concert.

2. Introducing the new WWDB app. Yeah sucks if you don’t have an iPhone. Expect the cult leaders to be riding their downline’s asses to buy new phones so they can buy this new app. More money flushed down the old Amway tool scam toilet!

3. Demonstrating how Legacy of Clean works. Here’s a news flash for those pompous Amway bastards. Most women learned how to operate a washing machine and dishwasher by the time they were twelve years old. Sorry guys this might have been a skill that took you a little longer to learn! We all know how to use laundry soap and dishwasher soap. We figured it out a long time ago. Through trial and error over the years we figured out which detergents do a good job of getting our clothes/dishes clean. We know the approximate prices of just about every soap out there because we’re good comparison shoppers. We know a good deal and will buy an extra one if its on sale. We all know that Amway’s soap is overpriced and there are better, less expensive options in the market. You can be pretty certain whoever is demonstrating this bullshit had to go to a lot of trouble to find maybe the one soap out there in the world that doesn’t clean as well as Amway.

4. Nutrilite Weight Management. Uh huh. Judging by some of the speakers who hit the stage we all see how good this product works! There’s about a 95% failure rate for people who try diets like this. Almost the same odds as the failure rate of people who don’t earn money in Amway. This is one company that loves to stack the odds against you and design their systems for failure!

5. Fast Track! Make money! Yeah, yeah! I’ve heard it all before! They were calling it Fast Track when we were in too!

6. Artistry will be there again doling out stingy sized sample packets. Avon is more generous with their samples. Less expensive. More variety. Need I say more? Artistry sucks!

So that tells me about 6 exhibitors/snake oil pitchers will be at the trade show. In my previous post I didn’t remember how many though I thought less than 10. We zipped through the trade fair in less than 20 minutes. This time they’re forcing “serious business builders” to stay a little longer by enticing them with “very important” seminars spaced out over a couple of hours. The seminars and demos start at various times between 6:30pm and 8:30pm. Don’t get your undies in a knot. Those seminars last about 5 minutes. There’s only so many ways you can bullshit about a lousy product.

There are more fun ways to spend a hot July weekend in Boise. Waterpark anyone?