Tuesday, November 29, 2011

Why I Can't Stand Our Upline

I thought I’d cover some reasons why I couldn't stand our upline. Thanks to my upline I grew to really hate Amway and anything to do with Amway. This is based on my experiences but I see too many similar stories all over the Internet. That tells me I am not unique! No matter how much I think I am! Ha ha!
1. Our sponsor is one of the biggest assholes I have ever met! Our sponsor, aka Captain Fuck Up aka the arrogant prick, is someone Ambot has known for years. He is the most useless piece of shit sorriest excuse for taking up space on the planet that anyone could ever imagine. Besides being arrogant some of his other finer points are he’s unreliable, irresponsible, stomps off in temper tantrums, and is asshole ugly. From there it goes downhill! Its a really bad idea to be sponsored into Amway by a rotten bad ass fucker like him. Existing problems with this jerk ass only worsened. Bad bad idea getting involved in anything - whether it be Amway or anything else - with a miserable bastard like him who I've never wanted anything to do with. The resentment only grows.

2. Loss of money. We had already tried the Amway thing before. I knew exactly what would happen again. We’d throw a lot of money away buying expensive products that I don’t like and don’t use. We’d throw away even more money on various tools to “grow our business” and all the various expenses that go along with travelling to out of state functions several times a year. If I was lucky our losses would be a few thousand dollars until Ambot ran out of money or became disenchanted again. If I was unlucky the losses would run into the tens of thousands. I estimate $700/month to throw at investing into the Amway nightmare. How many people have that kind of disposable cash lying around? If not, see number 3.

3. Going into debt. This could be credit card debt as in Ambot’s case. Other people take out second mortgages on their homes or lines of credit. Any way you look at it IBO’s are borrowing money to fund their upline’s dreams and many former IBO’s have lost their homes and declared bankruptcy when they can’t repay the money they borrowed for the great Amway opportunity.

4. Loss of time. Forget the often touted 10 to 15 hours a week - Ambot wasted way more time than that! His upline ordered him to prospect every person he ran into and tell them about this kick ass home based opportunity where everyone can make at least $70,000/year in their spare time. Ha ha! Not us or anyone else we knew! Ambot's mission turned into begging everyone we knew and did not know to come to a board plan meeting all the while denying it has anything to do with Amway. He spent hours on the phone and text messages with upline. Two or three board plans each week at various downline/crossline houses or it might be a larger function where a Diamond comes to town once or twice a month. Lowball estimate 5 hours a night for these meetings. Weekend rallies happen about once a month where a Diamond comes to town and new pins are awarded. Depends if its a one or 2 day event. Say at least 10 hours but that could be doubled. Family Reunion, Free Enterprise Days, and Spring Leadership always seem to be held hundreds of miles away. Several hours driving each way and then at least 30 hours tied up for weekend events. And that’s a conservative estimate. I'd say the actual hour count was a minimum of 100 hours invested in Amway and the fucking upline's demands. All that time spent with Amway related events means normal people activities such as birthdays, weddings, spending time with family and friends, outings, vacations, shopping, etc are taboo until Ambot makes it real big in Amway. It looks like I forgot to mention the lack of support with household chores.

5. I really couldn't stand the upline. However I recognize that this dislike is more closely connected to the general dislike of our asshole sponsor and any people he might associate with. But eventually I grew to dislike our upline especially when it became out of control the way they monopolized Ambot's time. And money. And money. And money. And money. Oh did I mention money? But mostly I was just pissed off at all the bullshit spouting out of our upline’s mouths. I didn't want to have anything to do with those fucking liars.

6. Brainwashing. This is part of our upline’s strategy to separate Ambot from “negative” forces in his life which included me because of my lack of interest in Amway and our upline. The crazy thing is our upline were the most negative bastards around spreading their predictions of doom and gloom and misery and the only way to escape this horrible existence is belonging to the Amway cult. And yes absolutely through our association with World Wide Destructive Bastards I was in a line of sponsorship that abuses IBO’s and uses cult-like brainwashing techniques, so fuck you WWDB! Ambot stopped thinking for himself and parroting everything the upline said. Ambot accepted everything the upline said as the truth until he became so conditioned to think this way that there was no way in hell he would ever accept that the information he received from his beloved upline could be wrong. He denied what was happening to himself and his life and under the upline's brainwashing control he separated himself from reality.

7. Deception. Call it whatever you want - all IBO’s are guilty of lying. Our upline were typical Amway IBO's - a bunch of lying bastards. They lied about their affiliation with Amway, their success, and any abuses that might be happening in our group. The upline refused to believe the big lie about the tool scam and how the greedy Diamonds were obsessed with making money at the expense of their downline. Ambot wasn’t too good at prospecting because he’d break down quickly and tell prospects that this was Amway and then he’d lie and say everything’s going really good. All IBO’s are conditioned to say that even though none of them are making money at their Amway business. Its really annoying to listen to  Ambot not being truthful when I knew damn well he wasn't making any money at the Amway scheme. As we all know the opposite was true. Losing thousands of dollars.

Add everything up and these are reasons why I could not stand our upline and/or Amway and why this caused trouble in our marriage.
I hated hearing from brainwashed IBO’s who parroted the upline and claimed “That’s because there is already something wrong with your marriage/relationship”. The standard answer whenever a spouse doesn’t want anything to do with Amway.

But not one of those fucking IBO’s can explain why there were no existing problems before Amway entered the picture.

Our upline were nothing but a bunch of fucking troublemakers!


  1. You are just a bundle of joy. No kidding Amway didn't work for you. You have to work the system. My platinum just brought home his wife for the rest of her life from working a 100,000/year job. So have fun blogging. I'll come visit once I hit Diamond. (Approx. 3 years from now)

  2. Anonymous from Vancouver Washington - our Platinum has been in Amway for around 20 years falling in and out of qualification. It'll never get any better than that for him or your platinums. The downline keep quitting and its hard to keep the Amway pyramid scheme going due to attrition. Your Platinum only brought his wife home now? What a fucking loser! I haven't worked in years.

    Yeah you come back in 2 to 5 years and tell us when you're Diamond. You still won't be making as much money a year as we do!

  3. What do you do?

    Guess what? That means he's making way more than her job so they can live comfortably. It's residual money, and she will never have to put in an hour of work the rest of her life. Plus, Vacations, bonus's and way more. They're in Orlando right now at Disney/Universal COMPLETELY free.

    I will. And I most definitely will. You have no clue who I am or my drive, so keep talking shit on your blog. That's what winners do!

    Everybody dies, but not everybody lives.

  4. Anonymous - you really need to read Merchants of Deception. Copy and paste the link below for your free ebook. You will find out how much an Emerald is really making by a man who got his wife free and then quit his job. And struggled. And went into debt trying to keep up the illusion to his downline how successful they were.

    I've traveled to lots of places for free for example China and France. Its not really all that difficult if you get some connections. I was in Disneyworld Orlando before you were even born. So what? Everyone's been there. Nothing like wrecking your Disney vacation by having to attend Amway meetings!


  5. ...right? Attend amway meetings. That's no vacation. It's just the location of choice for more indoctrination.

    If amway was so great, let us have real vacations. When I go on vacation (paid for by my business) I have NO MEETINGS WHATSOEVER.

    I refuse to go to Christmas parties if they are going to have 'just a short meeting, we promise.'

    Bullshit. The so-called party is just an excuse for more brain-washing. Leave us the hell alone. I don't want to have to pay attention while on vacation. I want my mind to wander aimlessly while enjoying myself. I'm sick to death of paying attention.

    When we would win retail dinners, or get 'invited' to Movin' Up Weekend (what a joke) there was no relaxation allowed. We were always hurrying to the next meeting. And we paid our own airfare, hotel, and food. Lucky us.

    You don't get invited to those events for years if you haven't done the work and brought in the numbers, so bark up another tree. We're busy here.


  6. Busy talking shit. Bravo.

  7. The busy talking shit comment above is from Anonymous in Vancouver Washington.

    I don't know that I've been busy talking shit today. Putting up Christmas lights, visiting friends, and Christmas baking is more like it.

    I'd say you're nuttier than the fruitcake I baked but I wouldn't want to insult the pecans!

  8. What a sweetheart. So THAT'S the positive power of amway. Who knew?

    ambots never come on here and discuss, oh, I don't know, Schedules C, Profit &Loss, or any other REAL business document.

    It's always the same old cult-driven drivel: we're winners and you're not, so there.

    Couldn't resist a little Pee Wee fun.


  9. CT - we'll take any kind of fun here we can get!

  10. i guess you could just call yourself stupid for not realizing all this sooner and quitting.

    1. Anonymous - if you're referring to me I was not the stupid one getting involved in Scamway. Hence the title of this blog = married to an ambot. Wives are smart enough to see that Amway is a scam and ambots are a bunch of lying scamming assholes. Its our husbands who are stupid enough to believe those fucking lying Amway assholes that they're gonna get rich in this scam and instead they put their wives through the Amway hell hole of financial and emotional distress.


Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
9. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.
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