Saturday, February 4, 2012

Amway Products are a Good Reason Not to Get Involved with Amway

There were many reasons I didn’t want to get involved with Amway. Some of the reasons:

1. We’d already done it before and lost money and I knew to expect the same
2. Losing more money
3. Wasting our time
4. Attending boring, lengthy meetings where the same thing was said over and over and over and over and over and over........
5. Using shitty, nasty, useless, overpriced, substandard Amway products

Of course there were other reasons, namely our sponsor is an arrogant prick and our Platinum is a pompous sack of shit. I don’t like either of them and don't want to spend any time around them. If they’re in Amway that’s the best reason not to be in Amway.

But rather than cursing out my upline I’ll go back to the shitty Amway products.

I do not use vitamins. People who eat healthy low fat meals and eat lots of fruits and vegetables or otherwise eat balanced meals generally do not need supplements. Sure enough the upline told us all these vitamins we needed to take just like the last time we were in Amway. The reason ambots are brainwashed into buying all those overpriced vitamins is because it gives them the best PV bang for your buck. That’s what the cult leaders at Amway meetings preached to us. So our cupboard ended up jam packed with just about every vitamin Ambot could think to buy.

I never felt any difference from Amway Nutrilite vitamins other than a lighter bank account. I’ve felt no difference whenever I take vitamins from other suppliers either. Maybe I’m not old enough yet where taking vitamin supplements is going to benefit me. Amway IBO’s are running around from one meeting to another and don’t get home until early in the morning that they don't have time to stop and cook decent meals. They go through the drive thru at fast food joints and cram in the burgers and fries while driving to an Amway meeting or perhaps they don’t eat at all - I mean who can afford to go out and buy groceries when they have to use all their disposable income towards buying Amway products - so they need to use vitamin supplements to balance their poor nutrition.

I hated Amway dish soap Dish Drops. It comes in a small bottle with a pump dispenser. The thing I hate most about Dish Drops is the bubbles don't last. I’m still washing dishes and I have no soap bubbles. Its not like I have a ton of dishes I wash in the sink. I have a dishwasher but I also wash by hand dishwasher rejects or items that I don’t normally put in the dishwasher. Dish Drops come in refill sizes and like the good little Ambot my husband was he stocked up on Dish Drops and we used it long after our Amway affiliation has ended. I hate being wasteful and throwing things away. I was really happy when I could switch back to better quality dish soap at a fraction of Amway’s price.

Amway also sells dishwasher detergent, little white pucks. I hated them too. After every load I’d pull dishes or plates out that I’d call “dishwasher rejects” and then I'd have to wash them by hand with the shitty Dish Drops whose bubbles didn’t last. Nasty! If my Ambot husband washed the dishes maybe the shitty Amway products wouldn't have bothered me so much. But no like the typical ambot husband he bought shitty Amway cleaning products and expected that I would just love using them. Nopers. I prefer to use cleaning products that actually work.

I finally had enough of the shitty Amway dishwasher pucks and didn’t inform Ambot when they ran out. Instead I visited a forum and saw a discussion going on about the best dishwasher soap and the overwhelming response went to Wal-Mart’s brand Great Value so I decided to give them a try. Its a powder in plastic wrap that disolves during the wash. Wow! What a difference. It actually gets my dishes and glasses clean. What a refreshing change from using Amway’s dishwasher soap! I no longer have a huge stack of dishwasher rejects. In fact its very rare that I'll have to pull aside anything to rewash by hand. Maybe two items a month.

Ambot noticed I’d switched dishwasher machine detergents and wanted to know why I didn’t tell him so he could order more Amway shit. I told him I was fed up with all the dishwasher rejects that I had to wash by hand and told him if he wanted to continue using Amway dishwasher pucks, then he was going to be responsible for hand washing the rejects.

That settled that problem!

An ambot actually doing the dishes! Don’t make me laugh. Those ambots get brainwashed by their male chauvinist pig Amway cult leaders into thinking its the 1800s and women do all the housework.

What about XS Energy Drinks aka piss water. We never had energy drinks in the house before getting involved with Amway and now all of a sudden these expensive little tins are in my fridge and the empties are littered around the house. Apparently another teaching at Amway meetings by those male chauvinist Amway cult leaders is that the woman of the house will be happy to pick up all those empties and dispose of them so the man can leave them wherever they drop. Because only the man is drinking them. Women do not like drinking piss water!

Now is a good time for me to send out another fuck you to Amway and our upline for introducing that nasty piss water and your old fashioned beliefs into our house.

Perfect Water which would be better named Perfectly Useless Water and their bullshit claims about how it miraculously cures whatever ails you. This snake oil can be yours too for $50 for a case of 24 bottles. Uh lets see. How about $3 or $4 at Walmart for a case of 24 bottles of water that don’t boast it cures cancer.

Those Amway products are the main culprits why prospects should not get involved with Amway.

142 comments:

  1. My god you tried so many amway products. Sorta felt bad for you :). Only two things i ever tried where the shampoo n double x. The laundry detergent didnt smell or look to good so i gave it to my mother. She still have the SA8 in the basement of her home unused lol.

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    1. Colin - that was nothing! My husband seemed hell bent on getting at least one of every shitty Amway product in the house. Yes we had the shampoo and conditioner in the house too. They come in big containers that lasted longer than our stint in Amway. I ended up throwing them out. My hair is normal to dry and the Amway shampoo made my hair lifeless and oily. It was just as nasty as any other Amway product we tried. The very expensive Amway SA8 laundry detergent doesn't work any better than a box of Tide. In fact an Amway employee showed up here to say he gets Amway laundry soap for free and he still goes out and buys Tide because it does a better job of getting the clothes clean!

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  2. Amway shampoo gave me itchy scalp. I've always used tide or Purex liquid detergents. Have your hubby tried giving away Amway products for people to try?

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    1. Colin - he gave away Amway products mostly XS, Perfect Water, and food bars. Enough said. People don't want to pay for that shit! Unless you're a brainwashed ambot and think it actually tastes good!

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  3. Anna - I'm curious to know whether you, or any of your free-thinking readers, ever came across perhaps the ultimate ironic 'Amway' wampum. Namely, a cheaply-produced, battery powered, movement detector, labelled 'burglar alarm.' These expensive toys could be rendered effectively-useless by any half-competent burglar, simply by hitting, or stepping on, them. They were offered to brain-burgled Ambots in the UK in the 1990s. My Ambot brother had piles of them.

    Also, have you ever considered how 'Amway' wampum is looked on by devout Ambots, in essentially the same way that devout Jews and Muslims look on Kosher and Halal food and drink. In both these traditional religions, the consumption of unauthorized foodstuffs, or even the consumption of authorized foodstuffs on unauthorized premises, is believed to be a negative barrier to achieving positive redemption in paradise.

    Several former Ambots who contacted me, have told me that 'Upline' conducted regular spot-searchs of 'Downline' homes looking for 'negative products.' Offenders were treated like naughty children. They were made to take the 'negative products' outside and burn them or dump them in the trash.

    In the 1990s, a fly-on-the-wall documentary was made about Ambots in Poland. One poor Polish Ambot was filmed smashing his television with a baseball bat because his 'Upline' had told him that it was polluting his brain with 'negativity.'

    David Brear (copyright 2012)

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    1. David - I've never heard of Amway's alarm system. We use the services of a monitored alarm company long before we signed up with Amway.

      Perhaps someone down the street is using this cheap battery powered Amway alarm. My neighbor saw me outside a couple of days ago and came over to ask me if I've been hearing somebody's alarm at 1am and 4am. Its been waking her up and goes off for 15 or 20 minutes and its pissing her off. I told her it must not be a monitored system. One of those battery operated ones that makes a lot of noise. Anyway I don't know which house is the culprit. Must be down the other side of the street because its not waking me up. Must be a piece of shit Amway alarm!

      The only time any upline asshole went through our house was when Ambot signed up. They walked through and pointed out all the things we use in the house that we could replace with substandard overpriced Amway shit.

      Those Amway bastards would be too chicken to do that in my presence. I didn't want any of them in the house. If I'd caught any of them taking my good stuff outside to destroy it I would have given them shit supreme like they've never heard before!

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  4. Anna, too be fair some of the products are quality especially the laundry stuff (Legacy of Clean now, used to be SA8). And cost productive too. I use Amway products based on whether 1. It's a product I ACTUALLY LIKE and 2. The price is not too far out of my comfort zone. I'll pay more for quality for many things even outside of the business for sure, but it depends. Their big ticket items are also solid--that air filter thing and that water filter are some good shit. However, obviously one shouldn't be selling those every day, or MAKING downline buy them if it's out of their budget. I like them though and I'm deriving value.

    I stopped taking vitamins for the reasons you mentioned--I've realized proper lifestyle negates the need for aggressive supplementation. (Also I was shocked the other day to find out that over the counter vitamins are "all-natural, no artifical stuff...etc". I had been certain they were artificial, chemical and manufcatured....)

    For me the most uncomfortable of the "9 core steps" is fanatic 100% self use. The example given is that Bill Gates doesn't have an iPod or Macs in his house. Or that a Mercedes CEO won't be seen driving a BMW. However that's apples and oranges, as in these examples, they are direct competitors and only one line of products in direct competition. Us IBOs have an ENTIRE catalog, so if they're going to be fanatical, basically the whole idea is that we should only be shopping from the catalog, yet no one says that. Also if an IBO doesn't like Xs and won't sell them, no need for him to use it. How can self-use happen to apply only to the core-line products? Doesn't make sense at all. I say use what you like, and use what you think you're actually going to (whole heartedly) promote.


    Disclosure: I'm an IBO, I get the idea of success principles, and I support success and those doing their own thing. I think Amway's a good idea ruined by bad people, and inexcusable neglect by the owners in the 80s and 90s (if you do research, Rich DeVos once spoke out against KingPins but backed off). However, I DO NOT like group think,and I don't beleive that Amway is the all and be of the world--there's definitely other measures of success, and we should celebrate them all. So I don't know where that would put me. I don't think I'm an "ambot" but maybe for you all Amway IBOs are!

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    1. Anonymous - thank you for stopping by my blog!

      Amway's laundry soap was called SA8 when we were in. I disagree that its cost effective. It costs way more than laundry soap that gets similar results. The fact that I had an Amway employee stop by to say he gets laundry soap for free and he still goes out and buys Tide from the grocery store - enough said!

      Although you seem to have a good outlook - buy only what you need if the price is decent and not buying Nutrilite vitamins and you get it that a lot of bad IBOs have caused Amway to have a bad name - you are probably a renegade IBO or belong to a line of sponsorship that is not too agressive or you have not been in Amway too long. What you say you're doing is not normal Amway teaching. You are not the typical brainwashed ambot who shows up to my blog with some badly written canned amspeak response spouting off bullshit they heard from the stage and calling everyone not in Amway every name under the sun. I suspect you probably have several pans in the fire and keeping your options open for multiple types of income. You appear to so far be partly resistant to the brainwashing, well spoken, and somewhat educated. Sometimes that can be scarier than the typical brainwashed ambot!

      Keep an eye on your expenses and if your net income is below zero every month you might want to reevaluate if Amway is a good option for you. Good luck to you!

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    2. I'm sorry for whatever your spouse did to you because you obviously can't get over whatever he/she did to you. I would ask you respectively to not bad mouth an organization that teaches young people leadership, people skills, and promotes an entrepreneurial lifestyle in an economy that really needs this mindset.

      There are people who make terrible decisions and in some cases we could call them "bad" people. I'm sure there are some in Amway like any other company but the values that this company promote are not bad. It's the individuals that choose to hurt others that are the problem and they exist everywhere not just in amway. I hope you can move on from whatever your spouse did to you.

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    3. Anonymous Amway Asshole - my husband did nothing to me except get brainwashed into the fucking Amway cult.

      I haven't been able to move on from what the fucking assholes in our Amway upline did so that's why I write this blog.

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    4. Anna -you mad, sista? Obviously the people you've met did it the wrong way.

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    5. "I'm sorry for whatever your spouse did to you because you obviously can't get over whatever he/she did to you. I would ask you respectively to not bad mouth an organization that teaches young people leadership, people skills, and promotes an entrepreneurial lifestyle in an economy that really needs this mindset."

      I was an Amway distributor for about a year. I remember hearing an Amway motivational tape that advised people to divorce their spouses if they wouldn't join "the business." Is it any wonder Amway can put a strain on people's marriages? I think this was probably a Bill Britt tape. I heard another Britt tape which included an "altar call." Go figure. What a bunch of bogus "Christians" are involved in this thing. (I am not a Christian myself, but was raised in a devoutly Christian household, and advising someone to divorce their spouse over something like this no less, is anything but Christian.) I was in the Hale organization, which is of course an offshoot of Yager's, so it is from the more aggressively right-wing (pseudo?) fundamentalist Christian side of things.

      I'm kind of amazed I stayed in for so long but my brother is the one who recruited me, I had just graduated from college and was floundering, and I did it partly as a conscious experiment in brainwashing myself/letting myself be brainwashed. I quit after hearing Dexter Yager speak live.

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    6. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by. The Amway cult has their own twisted religious views but I guess thats the same story for every cult out there. Its really creepy the brainwashing control the Amway cult leaders have over their followers. Divorce your spouse if they won't buy overpriced shitty Amway profucts and won't worship and tithe the Great Amway God. Glad to hear you got out when you did before too much damage was done.

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  5. Anna - Sadly, my heart goes out to your latest anonymous visitor who, yet again, has proved the validity of the following, famous observations of cultic/totalitarian regimes:

    'The most powerful weapon in the hands of the oppressor, is the mind of the oppressed.'

    'If you tell a big enough lie and keep repeating it, eventually people will come to accept it as the tuth.'

    As far as I'm concerned, anyone who blindly repeats the scripted lie: 'I am/was an Amway I(ndependent)B(usiness)O(wner),' is merely demonstrating that it is remarkably-easy to shut-down an individual's critical, and evaluative, faculties by subjecting them (without their fully-informed consent) to co-ordinated, devious techniques of social, psychological and physical persuasion. These impermissible techniques are based on giving their victims the illusion that they are always making a free-choice.

    One of these techniques is known as Neuro-Linguistic Programming. In brief, you can control a person's thinking simply by controlling, and ritualizing, their means of thought (i.e. their vocabulary). All cultic groups and totalitaian regimes constantly repeat reality-inverting, thought-stopping jargon; particularly, accronyms. This jargon is a non-violent means of intellectually-castrating cult adherents in order to cripple them with guilt and shame, and prevent them from complaining. Sadly, even after they have left their groups, it can remain second nature for cult victims to continue to reflect their group's fictitious controlling scenario as fact.

    Thus, it would be far more accurate for your anonymous visitor to have said :

    In order to control my thinking, I have been constantly told by the billionaire bosses of the 'Amway' mob and their propaganda system, that I am an 'Independent Business Owner,' but, in reality, I have been their powerless de facto slave.

    Obviously, it's human nature for people to deny that they have been deceived or that they have been used to deceive others. This is why 'the most powerful weapon in the hands of the oppressor, is the mind of the oppressed.'

    David Brear (copyright 2012

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    1. David - sometimes its not all about the lie but how convincing the liar sounds when telling it.

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    2. Both of you need to move on in your lives to something more positive, psycho analyzing "cultic" groups isn't going to do you any good. Find something that makes you happy, stop focusing on a group that you obviously don't like. Go into business for yourself, or find a job that makes you happy!

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    3. Fuck off Amway asshole! You don't like what you read here go somewhere else!

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    4. Woot, there is is! Amyway now recruits to high school students. Well written post Anna.

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    5. Yeah I think you're just a whinger who uses a blog to blow off steam and rant about something to make yourself feel better. And you even worse you think you're smart with you're carefully prepared phrases like "dish drops are so shit the bubbles run out before the dishes" or "the shampoo lasted longer than our time in the business". You may fool a whole bunch of idiots who stumble across your high ranked blog on google but to me you just seem like a lost soul that is at the mercy to her husband.
      The funny thing is I'm not a fan of Amway at all. I think multi level marketing is the dumbest way to make a living but I don't rant and rave about it and make blogs to complain on. Frankly I have better and more important things to focus on than Amway

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    6. Rightly said Anonymous, nothing need to be added to douse their fire or rants, as they are losers who want to teach others to lose.
      I used their products 12 years back. especially SA8 & Dishdrops first & then joined to get them directly for their quality & effectiveness compared to other products which are phosphate based, which damage skin of users while aloevera soothes hands while cleaning the dishes perfectly. Sour grapes cannot be made sweet unless they select or add sugar.

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    7. Hey devdath - for your next act why don't you talk about the quality of Amway's leaky tampons and how SA8 isn't good enough laundry soap to get the blood stains out of our underwear and how we have to go out and buy new ones thanks to Amway's overpriced shitty products. I'm surprised Amway isn't also selling underwear!

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    8. To me, the definition of a "loser" would be someone who gets involved in a multi-level marketing pyramid scheme where the products are horribly overpriced and of generic to poor quality, and thus the vast majority of customers are the Ambots themselves who in turn can only try to recruit new people to be self-consumers. When less than 1% of those who get involved in Amway don't make any money in it (and that figure is from Amway's own literature) then it's lousy "business plan". But then again, aren't all pyramids where only those at the very tippy top make any money at all?

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    9. Anonymous - I agree with your definition. But then I'm not an ambot. They refer to losers as everyone who is not in the Amway cult.

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  6. My friend offered me some products I am about to buy Dish Drops and sa8 premium that's what I found on the You tube.
    Dish Drops- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AtStS8vnc
    SA8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jaAHVAAse4

    I do not untested why are you complaining
    I think I'll try. I can not believe that my friend would lie to me.

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    1. Anonymous - I am not at all interested in watching any Amway propaganda. I have used Dish Drops and SA8 so I have first hand experience. If you like paying 3 or 4 times more for products then go ahead. Dish Drops will run out of bubbles before you run out of dishes.

      If your friend is in Amway then of course he will lie to you. How do you know when someone in Amway is lying to you? Because their mouth is moving!

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    2. propaganda? We see advertisements everyday for all sorts of products which you could deem as propaganda as well..that you probably buy from a megamart store such as Walmart/Target/a food store, you are making that person rich.

      Please just move on in your life to something better! Your life wasn't meant to be lived here replying to posts about Amway and Ambots, go experience your life to the full! Climb a mountain! Go Swimming! Do something new everyday!

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    3. So you're just another fucking Amway asshole trying to tell other people what they should do with their lives? Fuck off!

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    4. Anonymous, I don't think there is anything wrong for Anna to be talking about her experienes with Amway Product. If you want to post, post sometime that can back you up!

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    5. (AnonymousJune 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM) - this person should be a brainwashed ambot. i fully agree with Anna. Amway is shit. Hi Anonymous, kindly refrain from telling people what to do with their lives.

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    6. Anonymous - he can't help. People in Amway are brainwashed into believing its their right to tell other people what to do and how to live their lives. Same as any cult.

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    7. Anna, I just have to say you are 100% right that Amway is a form of a cult. Organizations like this, scientology, Crossfit (strangely enough) are all revolved around guerrilla social networking and the previously mentioned neuro-linguistic programming. They are all systems of social support and "perceived value" that ultimately have large sums of money being given up from the brainwashed members.

      I have a suggestive friend who is at a tough place in his life and needed some purpose, and he joined Amway after being coerced by some of his facebook friends that he barely knows. I found your page by looking up info on Amway and you confirm that my suspicions about this company are true. Now I have my work cut out for me to convince him that this is not going to make him money.

      The real joke about Amway is that the real customers - the real money makers - for the higher ups at Amway are not the "customers", they are the IBOs themselves. My friend has already become brainwashed into buying the Amway products for himself.

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    8. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by. Sorry to hear about your friend. You do have your work cut out for you because your friends Amway upline have already brainwashed him that the only people he can trust are his Amway leaders because they will always tell the truth and he can't believe people not in Scamway because they are negative liars who don't want him to succeed. Or something similar to that. Amway is all about separating their followers from their friends and family. If you haven't already done so download the free ebook Merchants of Deception. The link is in the right hand sidebar. Less than 5% of Amway's sales are made to people who are not signed up to be Amway IBO's, so that tells you how hard the cult leaders promote the old buy from yourself, buy from your own store bullshit. If someone else makes the products and puts the price tag on them then it ain't your store.

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  7. video show just opposite at everything what you say. OK I'll try and then we'll see.

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    1. Well its no skin of my ass whatever you do.

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    2. It's easy to criticize and more difficult to be a part of the solution.

      Why is it easy for people to judge and criticize others, but not themselves?

      Because its much easier to condemn someone else for their faults than admit our own faults and imperfections. Admitting our own faults means we must be introspective and be honest about the things we have done wrong or the areas of our lives with which we are unsatisfied. It is much easier to simply turn a blind eye to our own mistakes and judge others for the mistakes they have made. It isn't right and it isn't how the world should work, many people simply haven't developed the moral fortitude to do what is right rather than what is easy.

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    3. Spoken like a brainwashed Amway asshole. Fuck off!

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    4. Ummm im an amway ibo and I think its awesome!! I mean the meetings get old yeah, but other than that it made my husband a better person, amway is a life changing thing, not every one is a fit for it, its not what you know its who you know. ..

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    5. Anonymous - of course brainwashed ambots think Amway is awesome. The rest of the world not so much.

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    6. You're a loser Anna. As soon as someone disagrees you call the. A brainwashed amway arsehole. Your blog is shit, get off the internet

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  8. hi i was IBO for amway. i spent a lot of money everything is wasted. u can compare amway product's with other product.actually they know thay are lying but they do not accept it.they know it very well but they invest so much money in it that's they can't get out of it.Dish Drops is very bad and all products is bad i leve amway all people backbiting on me they don't talk to me who cares :-j

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    1. Anonymous - congrats on getting out of Amway! Eventually most people figure out that they're wasting money and buying useless overpriced products. All ambots lie but they brainwash themselves into believing they are telling the truth.

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    2. Again perhaps you are dissapointed with yourself for not making a better decision at the beginning. Why did you join Amway? Did you believe in yourself or getting rich? In anycase...it's not worth your time to rip on Amway when you can be out there starting your own business that do the world some good.

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    3. Nobody gets rich in Amway except the owners of the company and the Diamonds who sell tickets to brainwashed ambots to come here them speak. We do have our own business. What makes you think we don't have it anymore? Fucking Amway asshole!

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  9. Anna, it's not worth it to have this blog...turn something like this into something positive. You have created a place for people to negatively vent about frustrations in their lives. Start over anew...make a decision to leave Amway in the dust and focus on improving yourself, loving life, and finding a passion that makes you happy.

    The only reason you would keep this blog is because you might have something against your ex-husband and people who remind you of him...not amway.

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    1. Anonymous Amway Asshole - I write this blog to help others like myself who are victims of Amway and have suffered emotional and financial damage to this cult.

      My ex-husband? I've only been married once to the same person and we're still married? Where this imaginary ex-husband that you speak of? What a fucking asshole you are!

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    2. When Amway Assholes tell you to do something other than this blog, what they really mean is "Dammit, you're scaring away all my potential victims! You know damn well that the only way we can hook new suckers is by keeping them in the dark with how the company really works while we dazzle then with smoke and mirrors and lies. Arming them with knowledge of our scam is killing us".

      ~Dave

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    3. Amway assholes can't tell the difference between the truth and negative. Anyone who has a different opinion than thei cult leaders is a sick sorry son of a bitch who will be broke or dead by age 65. People like me who tell about the hell of being inside the Amway cult are traitors as far as they're concerned. And people like me scare Amway assholes because our stories get the word out to potential victims to stay the hell away from Amway scammers.

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    4. The other amspeak talking point I see over and over in Ambot responses is "Just because you failed in Amway doesn't mean you have to stop others from reaching their dreams in the business". Of course, for them to say that means they still pretend that success in Amway has only to do with "how hard you work the business and how much you put into it". Bullshit. The statistics and facts blow that argument apart. Even when you take out of the equation all those who get involved in the company but never really try to do anything with it, the remaining Ambots who are "hard core, do everything my upline and the CD's tell me to do, eat, breathe and think Amway 24 hours a day, put pictures of mansions on my refrigerator, prospect anything on two feet", of THOSE hard-working CORE Ambots, 99% of them will never make any reasonable amount of money at all to offset the huge amounts they are required to dump into it. The system is badly flawed. No amount of drawing circles and playing "best case scenarios in a perfect world" will make the system work. Because in a pyramid scheme, there HAS to be large amounts of people losing LOTS and LOTS of money to feed the folks at the top. And the majority of those at the bottom will wise up at some point and say "fuck this shit" and get out of the cult. Thus those in the upline will forever be having to bring in fresh victims. And at some point the sucker market starts to dry up, which is why even when an Ambot reaches a certain level, it is usually only temporary, and they quickly tumble back down when their downline starts dropping like flies as the upline runs out of lies and bullshit to "motivate" them to continue destroying their finances and lives to the almighty god of greed.

      The truth is, folks who put up blogs like this are not "sour grapes losers who couldn't make it in a flawless opportunity", they are people who got sucked into a money-losing, relationship-destroying cult who only want to warn others of the dangers of Amway, which the glazed-eyed smiling brainwashed Ambots trying to suck them in won't ever tell them about.

      People like Anna should be commended. She is hardly "wasting her time" here when she has probably saved countless potential victims of a cult who did a google search trying to find out more info on Amway that the person prospecting them with "excited talk of dreams and wealth" would never tell them about, then they found her blog and found out the truth which kept them from making a life-destroying decision to join a mind-controlling cult.

      ~Dave

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    5. It's not worth it to have this blog? Of course it's worth it! Where else could I get my daily dose of hilarity? LMAO on a regular basis! On that aspect alone it's worth it, not to mention giving a forum for those who've been ripped off by this 'opportunity" a place to vent, share stories and heal.

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    6. Thanks Connie! That same Amway asshole is searching the Internet in the dead of the night first thing this morning when everyone else is asleep looking for Amway is awesome and ended up back on my blog again with more words of wisdom. He thinks Scamway is a reputable company. Lets see if he still thinks so a year from now!

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    7. It'll be funny what kind of response you'd get a year from now. He may still be deeply entrenched in Amway, but his talking points could evolve.

      I've noticed a pattern with them. The Newbies will speak excitedly of being on the road to riches in no time flat, mocking others with "maybe you can drive my limo for me". After a year or two they take one of two paths. One, they'll out and out lie "I made $30,000 just last month alone" when in fact they just got kicked out of their house for being behind on mortgage payments. The other possible path would be suddenly changing from the "I'm gonna be rich rich rich" to "Well, success can't only be found in how much one is earning. I've gained so much experience and leadership skills that money just can't buy". LOL yeah, right.

      ~Dave

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    8. Dave - I'd like to be driving the limo - or the taxi or bus - or wherever that ambot is taking. I'll give them a ride into hell that they won't forget. And then I'll park the limo on I-5 on one of the overpasses to one of the Hollywood exits and abandon them and then lets see what their life expectancy will be!

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  10. Hats off Anna for calling out the Bull!@#$. Too many people see the feel good adds and the pictures of rich homes (with no substance to back it up) and say "Yea, this could be my life" and then sink what little they have into this MLM scam.

    MLM in general serves one purpose only. It feeds those people at the top. Eventually you run out of people at the bottom so those just starting out are left to fight for what little market share is left. And in the case of Amway, they have no real tools to fight that fight with.

    Great Blog!!!!!

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    1. Hi Anonymous! Thanks for stoppin by! Glad you're liking my blog!

      Its always nice to look at pictures of mansions in Malibu and imagine yourself living there but it ain't going to happen if you're throwing money away in Amway or another MLM.

      The only people who get rich in Amway are the people who own the company and the Diamonds who sell tickets to functions to their cult followers to listen to them speak. And the other bullshit motivational material or "business" tools they sell. That's where the money is. New recruits keep the money flowing up the pyramid.

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    2. So this guy is great? Why is he not an amway arsehole? Oh he's agreeing with you

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  11. My Boy Friend is forcing me around 2 months to buy Amyay products like Dish Wash powder,protein powder and other beauty products....i observed that those are most expensive. My soul is not allowing me to buy those heart fully. But because of him, i am thinking about those products. i am confusing now. What's your suggestion. Is it good to buy Amway products?

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    1. That is why Amway teaches the tactics that it does. Having their IBO's target friends and family who often buy mainly out of an uncomfortable sense of obligation despite their products being overpriced, generic and often substandard. Then once the loved one is buying, with their foot in the door, the IBO starts to put the squeeze on for them to either buy even more products, or to become Amway distributors, too. They will bug the family member, friend or loved one to attend a meeting, saying "just listen to the plan, what have you got to lose?" Well, as thousands of former IBO's can tell them "you can lose a LOT by being in Amway". Finances, time and your own individuality.

      ~Dave

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    2. Siri-when you buy Amway products, for whatever reason, you are putting money in the pockets of deceitful, evil people. No wonder your "soul is not allowing you to buy those heart fully" Usually, our heart and soul knows what is true if we bother to check in and listen. Just my thoughts.

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  12. Thx for the open blog. Was in Amway interest 90's, what a waste on tapes...I did like two products, shoe shine spray and hard surface protectant. What a relief to dump everything . Thanks for running this blog.

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by! I don't know if Amway sells those products you like anymore. In fact I don't even know what a hard surface protectant is. Almost sounds kind of kinky! And that would be SO not Amway!

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  13. I went to look up Amway's alarm system out of curiosity and came across your blog, Anna. Good on you for taking the time to keep it up.

    I'm an experienced alarm tech and I was in Amway briefly back before the 90s when Amway was newly into the alarm business. At that time, Amway was vending a do-it-yourself model of equipment made by Ademco, which is a good brand, but...what Amway sold was the low-end wireless system that most probably caused untold false alarms, and it became obsolete in a few years.
    My upline sponsor told me he sold the package of equipment and installed it for free. Which may seem like a good deal for the buyers except that they got what they paid for. An inexperienced installer is a good recipe for false alarms out the wazoo. Amway dealers are NOT trained installers.

    "Obsolete" means that you can't buy replacement parts anymore, so if one part gets broken, you can't replace it and you won't have complete protection without buying a whole new system. That was the drawback of wireless systems in the 80s, when they were evolving.

    By comparison, if you had your wireless alarm system professionally installed (by an actual alarm dealer) in the last 20 years, you should still be able to buy replacement parts. (Hardwired systems don't become obsolete.)

    Bottom line, vending companies not specifically trained in alarm systems (like Amway dealers aren't) have no business marketing them and in some states like MD and VA, it would be illegal for unlicensed/unregistered vendors to install them...for the excellent reason that such systems used to keep police departments busy 95% of their time chasing false alarms. But... selling alarm systems is profitable, so Amway will continue marketing them. They don't care if the customer has to stop using the system to get a night's sleep...they got their money up front.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Keep up the good work, Anna.

    ~Phil

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  14. Amway is another way for certain business savvy people to make long term money. It is also a tool for certain people to learn how to market themselves and to gain confidence selling themselves as well as handling rejection from potential clients. Look at any sales position in any company... you are told to make "cold calls" and try to get peoples business. How many times do you think people get pissed off at them and curse them out? Probably every day. Sales is not for everyone and Amway has many IBOs that probably should stay out of the sales field because it gives the ones who are honest and hard working a bad name. As for the overpriced products, have you ever walked into a store and said, "Wow! That price is ridiculous." I know I have and I chose not to buy it. All that said, Im not involved with Amway, but rather a logical person who is an informed consumer and doesnt bash things I disagree with.

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    1. Anonymous - thanks for stopping by with the canned amspeak. Your brainwashing is not yet complete because you said that some IBO's are not cut out to be salespeople and give Amway a bad name. That kind of talk shows that you still have some ability to reason and will probably quit by early 2013 at the latest. Good luck to you!

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  15. Yeah... Obviously you can't read seeing that I am not doing Amway. I just know a few people that have been successful at it by using good, ethical marketing. Good luck to you!

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  16. Recommend any other network marketing companies with better products than the rest??

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    1. I think most MLM companies are scams, especially when their push becomes more recruitment than anything else.

      Go to youtube and type in "Penn and Teller Bullshit Easy Money". Funny, plus shows MLM's for just what they are... BULLSHIT!!!

      ~Dave

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    2. Wouldn't it still be possible to become successful with purely customers if a company has a great product? Might I add, what is considered successful is defined by the person. So a few paychecks here and there, profiting after you minus the expense of autoships required by companies. OR your business grows rapidly because the products work well and the customers start to market the products to get their own products paid off--this cycle then repeats.

      So you say most companies are scam, what are the other ones that are better?

      Thanks!

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    3. I'm not quite sure where you got "most companies are a scam" from what I said. I simply said multi-level marketing schemes where basically the product is secondary and the push to find others to recruit into the scheme and get them to find others and them to find others... read: pyramid scheme.

      If a product is a good product, is reasonably priced and has a market out there to sell to, then yes, one could make a few bucks depending on their sales savvy and cleverness at promoting it. But then at that point it's not really a multi-level marketing thing anymore as a multi-level marketing scheme is where you could make a lot of sales, but you only get a small percentage of it, and the rest trickles upward on the pyramid. You would then be pushed by your upline to recruit, recruit and recruit some more in order for you to sponge off of THEIR sales. The MLM model just isn't a model that works for most people. But, hey, it works for at least 1% of them. It's just that the 99% have to lose lots of money in order for the 1% to make a lot.

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  17. @Anonymous from Sept 7, 2012 6:18 AM: There are NO network marketing companies with business models that work for the average (meaning non-upline/founder) person. Although some of them do have good products, as a business model they are no more than a scam. As an experienced Financial Controller, I can tell you that the business model is just hogwash. "Use your own inventory/buy from yourself"?? Any business analyst can tell you one of the worst mistakes is to use up your own inventory. You're supposed to SELL that, not consume it! Furthermore, the profit margin on these network marketing products is just too slim to ever profit the seller. The real money (for upline) comes from recruiting new suckers.

    Have more questions? Check out the free report "What About This One" available from Pyramid Scheme Alert:
    http://pyramidschemealert.org/category/action-alerts/

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    1. "There are NO network marketing companies with business models that work for the average (meaning non-upline/founder) person."

      We all can agree there are many successful people in many companies. Again, as I mentioned up top, the definition of success varies from people to people. When you say a model that works for the average, almost every successful person, who were most likely average before, in all the companies had to start somewhere right? Most of them start at the bottom. So they were average and non-upline before they become successful.

      Yes, you are suppose to sell your inventory, but if you own a Starbucks or food restaurant, I am sure those people consume their inventory too.. Plus, no one says you need to consume your products, you can simply sell it.

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    2. Connie wasn't saying that one cannot buy their own products. You are just being silly now. But much of the recruitment push in Amway is to convince people to self-consume to meet their monthly PV requirements (since an over-priced generic product with a bad reputation can be somewhat hard to sell outside of the "business") and then to go out in turn and find others to self-consume, as well, and so on and so on. Again, as I've stated before, at that point the product becomes secondary to simply going out and trying to recruit other people to self-consume and try to make money off of their sales to themselves. (and we haven't even gotten into the backdoor money of brainwashing seminars, meetings, books, CD's, etc).

      If you feel the MLM model is for you, then go for it. No one is stopping you. The point of this site is to simply give folks the 99% side of the coin. Those who are trying to recruit, of course, only give the rosy 1% side of the coin. That way one can hear all sides and make their own decision. If they still decide to go for it, hey, they can't say they weren't warned.

      ~Dave

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  18. the reason why you consume your own products is so that you can experience them yourself so that it would be easy for you to recommend others. and also the plan also gives benefits to you because you shop on something that gives you benefits. nobody asks you to spread messages so that your team will expand. its up to you whether you want to be a client, or an IBO. nothing is perfect, really. you have to find which product is the right for you like shampoo, beauty products etc. not all of em are bad. the nutrilite products actually gave me wonders. the dish washer is very soft to your hand and you wont have to worry about the dangerous chemical contained in brand X. Amway made a product which you need less but gain more. like shampoo, you dont need too much of it, if you do you might end up drying your hair. there are so many other things that you need to know before starting this Amway business primarily about Amway product like from inside and out. thats what makes Amway different and worls's top quality brand no matter how much you say it but the experts know best. i went to the beauty and health workshop to get to know about amway products and learn the right way to use them instead of using them literally like how u used brand X because Amway is definitely DIFFERENT. learn, and you'll know

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  19. What you needed was the right emtional education. There's Is no need to curse out anybody. Amway is changing the worlds economy with state ot the Art products and a remarkable business opportunity giving thousands o people freedom. You should read some books by intelligent entrepreneurs and you might change your mind. There are always going to be people living a life of freedom thanks to amway. God bless you!

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    1. Do you really believe that bullshit? Well here's a little secret for you. Some asshole in your upline is doing a shitty job of getting their propaganda out there.

      If you read books by intelligent entrepreneurs you could do a lot better than being stuck in Amway.

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  20. Hey folks, hey Anna
    My hubby just started to drag amway into our sweet home. One order, never again!

    Never mind the massive dent in the bank balance...
    i have had piles of laundry that haven't been cleaned properly and my poor little kid and I ended up with constantly itchy skin even using the amway baby sensitive laundry stuff,
    the good old dish drops you mention that seem to do less than a cheap watery detergent from my local cheapo store,
    'concentrated' bathroom cleaner that i tried watering down to all kinds of different degrees and in the end it seems to be very ordinary kind of disinfectant that i would use dilute for the floor, but does f* all for real bathroom cleaning
    everything smells like some nasty 1970s chemical products

    oh, and my hubby is convinced he is becoming some kind of superhero due to taking the supposedly so superior nutritional supplements ... heaven help us when amway jump on the bandwagon of claiming to produce supplements that help brain development :-)

    glad to hear am not alone in thinking it's complete crock of shit

    but the good side - they fact that amway can get away with claiming any sort of environmental friendliness has scared me so much I am becoming an avid checker of any household product i buy, and am definitely going much greener - so ha ha, an unexpected bonus after all

    And that ... ahem... 'business model' thing about consuming and earning, think what they mean is part with your hard earned money now, spending far more than the product is worth to you right now, and then if you're lucky you claw some back from some other sucker that you draw in and do that a few times and you'll get rich? Maybe amway isn't illegal but it sounds exactly like some of those scam investment schemes that gets someone at the top rich because people in a tough economy trying to find a way to make a living desperately hand money over now in the hope of some magic formula creating wealth for them. If someone was giving out bogus share certificates and lots of promising sales talk people might spot the catch and it would get stopped, the only difference here is that they hand over some crap soap products instead.

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    1. Anonymous - I'm sorry that the evil Amway has invaded your house.

      Amway is all about destroying people's lives. It destroys relationships and it destroys emotionally and financially.

      Yep I remember the big bucks spent on overpriced shitty worse than generic products.

      Don't believe the bullshit about how Amway is one of the top 2 or whatever number environmental companies in the world. I searched and could not find any validation. I wrote a post about that some time ago. It's just yet another lie the assholes in the Amway upline spout off to their cult followers.

      Your husband will likely figure out in the next 4 months that he's not making any money at this scam and he's losing lots of money attending Amway meetings and buying motivational products. The people in his upline will bust their asses trying to break up your marriage so you need to be prepared for that.

      Look for some of his business plan booklets. Somewhere in the small print Amway lists e percentage of people who make money at this scam. It's less than 1%. You need to point that out to him and convince him you need to find a business with a better success rate.

      Good luck to you!

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  21. We tried Amway products once they were absolute expensive SHITE

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    1. Not all their products r bad, i have an absolute perfect diet and excersise regime and for some reason still have a poor immune system. I was taking inner health plus n the Swisse womens multivitumin and still got every cold and flu that comes around, and therefore sinus infection after sinus infection, not to mention those nasty tummy bugs that go around. I then switchedy multi to the double x, and in literally 3 weeks, i never got a sickness since for a whole year n a bit. Then i stopped taking them for about a year, and now my immune system is so low again, iget those damn colds, been to hospital twice for tonsilitus, etc etc. I am now taking the double x again, this is my third week on them and i cant wait to feel better again! It saves me from taking too many sick days, buying cold n flu tablets and visiting the doctor who will only describe me antibiotics! From that prospective, double x is expensive but a whole lot cheaper than the alternative!

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  22. A lot of people type 'away scam' into google every day after seeing a presentation, and probably visit your blog soon after to see what all the fuss is about. Why not add a few extra pages to the blog, eg amway product reviews with pictures, detailed information on how the amway business model works etc to make your blog more searchable, add some adds to this page, eg products like amway that work much better for lower price, and monetize the site for a few dollars? That way you'll be doing something positive by playing on this website, rather than just sitting on your fat arse blogging angrily away while your husband tries to think of more crazy ways to make money to support you.

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  23. Also, to any ambots here that have been spending big money on 'how to convert customers to amway' etc, you can also get ebooks on ebay for much cheaper than a,way's prices, less than a dollar. They're written by diamonds etc that want to make some extra money outside of amway, eg 'mega bucks meetings' ebook.

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  24. Hi, pls help me, today an Amway agent(who s my dad s friend) gave demo of many of Amway products. I told him I ve some sort of skin allergy and haemoglobin defieciency, So he made a list of many supplements(vitamins and Iron tablets) as well as hair care products which costs me 10,000 rupees(Indian rupees). So can you please suggest me whether its worth buying these products.

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    1. Anonymous - there are better and cheaper supplements out there on the market. Amway's products are so high priced so everyone upline can make a profit. Keep looking around until you find a product you like. And remember that everytime someone in Amway opens their mouth a lie comes out.

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    2. A S Rao, Navi MumbaiJanuary 17, 2013 at 9:33 AM

      The doctor is the right person to go to in your case. No need to spend 10000 rupees and end up self-prescribing.The doctor and prescription medicines are much cheaper, and a lot safer too.

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  25. HI Anna You experienced the Amway products and your analysis would be 100% right....nice to see your feedback on the product, it's kinda eye opener to everone....what is ur opinion on Bath soaps? is it okey to buy few for time being?

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    1. Sree - surely you can find bath soaps at a better price somewhere else? I like scented soaps and Amway doesn't sell them. I also don't like paying 3 times more for soap than what it sells for everywhere else.

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    2. hi anna im am planning to join amway is it true that they will refund 100% if your not satisfied with the products 90 days money back is this for real?

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    3. Anonymous - if you don't mind jumping through hoops and go to head office. If you go to your upline they'll bitch at you and ask why do you want to return these awesome products. Most ambots don't go for refunds because they'll lose the commission, it'll come off the next months sales. And that negative commission affects everyone in their upline and they'll be subjected to humiliation at the next Scamway meeting for being so dumb to ask for a refund.

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    4. anonymous..
      to answer your question, i am an ibo in indonesia, here they dont give us 100% of our money, they will cut 10% of it because it has gone into your pv/bv when you buy that thing...

      anna..
      i am sorry that you have a bad experience on amway.. i don't know about the price there.. here in indonesia not every amway product is expensive... we have dish drop for only $10 there... so i am really sorry if it is offended to you but i don't think you should write pricey because it's not the same in every country but everyone from anyplace around the world can see your post... but the nutrilite's products really are expensive here 😊

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    5. Oh come on selifi, you don't give a shit that I had a bad experience in Amway. You're doing that smug Ambot blame the victim scam thing. Yawn.

      And holy shit on the price! $10! Fucking expensive! I can go to Walmart and buy dish soap for under $3 maybe less than $2 if its on sale, good quality name brands where the bubbles outlast the dishes, a claim Amway can't make about their shitty dish drops.

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    6. well mam you are sure a rude lady... i did not blame anybody?! Can you show any sentence that i blame someone? well for you there it is expensive, well that can be use for 12 times so the price for each bottle is not even a dollar, so if u buy it for $2 that will still be expensive here hahahaha
      if u are here mam u will be call a branded dork, just because u know that brand is there for a long time and it is known well by all people then that will be the best product... but sorry mam don't go around destroying someone's business if u don't want to be treated the same... and if it is a scam, Mr. George W Bush will not even dare to join AMWAY BUSINESS and share about it all around the world and WHITE HOUSE will not use this products if it's NOT GOOD!

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    7. selifi - you don't like hearing the truth do you. Of course not. You're in Amway where being a liar is part of the employment requirements.

      When you typed "i am sorry that you have a bad experience on amway.." that's the smug Amway arrogant attitude of blaming the victim. I stand by my statement that you don't give a shit what kind of experience I had.

      What the hell is going on with the news service in India that you think George Bush is still the President in the White House? Fuck! Try to jump into the right decade! And are they teaching Ambots in India that George Bush is now an Amway salesman and knocking on the White House door saying "buy my shitty overpriced Scamway products" LOL! Is anyone else getting a giggle out of a former US president being a fucking Amway salesman! LOL! selifi - try keeping up with current news events so you don't look like a typical dumb fuck Amway Ambot! LOL! They make about $200,000/year once they retire as president. Plus they make lots of money in speaking engagement and writing books and consulting. And they're millionaires before even becoming president. Why the fuck would they want to be fucking Amway saleman?! LOL! Holy fuck. The lies you Amway assholes tells is just incredible.

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    8. Did you hear that George W. Bush made a small fortune in Amway?

      Yes, but that's because he started out with a large fortune.

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  26. Hi Anna! It was really entertaining to read your post! It also gives a lot of info and it comes from someone who's being bugged into using Amway products. My friend has been recently bugging me to attend this free Amway health session (skin, nails, hair etc etc) and she seems totally inspired by the meetings she has attended. She says that investment of money is not required. Only time is important and you can earn thousands. Also, she says that a friend of hers who has used some supplement has glowing skin and good hair now!

    A few days ago, we had a discussion on whether Amway supplements are good or not. She was bent on the fact that some Amway supplement has the power of 6 oranges. So I said, 'why not eat the oranges??' Then she started saying about pesticides and how vegetables have become expensive! People don't have time to cook or grow their own veggies. And no matter what we do, the fruits aren't totally pure! I don't understand the fact that for generations, people have lived eating natural stuff, right? I don't wanna get sucked in into eating supplements. No matter what, I'll stick to natural produce and not some pills! People swear by the supplements and I don't want to take any unless it is prescribed by an unbiased doctor. My God, I feel that she has been totally brainwashed! I don't wanna hurt her feelings but I guess that I'll attend that free health session anyway! After all, I don't intend to fall into the Amway trap! :D

    Thanks for hearing me out! :D

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    1. Hi Anonymous - thanks for stopping by! I'm glad you're enjoying the posts!

      Yup those ambots are always trying to push Nutrilite vitamins. They earn big commission on them. The fruit and veggie one is dumb ass stupid. The Amway cult leaders stand on the stage and tell their followers to take those vitamins instead of eating fresh fruit and vegetables. Nothing like filling up on a little vitamin when you can eat something more substantial like a banana that will fill you up.

      Ambots have arguments for everything. Thats about the only thing in Amway they receive training on. Lie, deny, distract, and overcome objections. I'm with you. I'd rather eat fresh produce than swallow bitter Amway pills!

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    2. i have been getting the answer for that, so here they teach us to count how much per pill is cost.. for example if a bottle of bio c is $20 it contains 60 tablets of it then it will only costs u $0.34 a pill. 1 pill cotains equal to 6 oranges, u can't get 6 oranges for $0.34 that's how they teach us here...

      anna
      sorry that you got a bad upline because a good upline will not only do some demo and introduced you to the product so you will buy all those things but they should see what products that you should buy and teach u how to use it in the right way so it will not disadvantaged you... well those are also the kind of upline that i will not join in to...

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    3. selifi - at every Scamway meeting I went to the cult leaders would be breaking down the cost per vitamin or per water or whatever. .34 cents a pill? Holy shit! We can go to Walmart and buy a bottle of 100 vitamins for $5. So that's like .05 cents each. As for oranges when they're in season people can pick them in their backyard for free. Same as with lots of other types of fruit depending where you live in the country. Or we can take a drive out to a farm and buy a box for a good price. Remind me not to visit a country where oranges are so expensive! Holy shit!

      Again shove it with the smug blame the victim scam that goes with Amway territory. Heard it a million times. Yawn. You ambots are so Unoriginal. And the smugness that you have the most superior Amway upline out there. Hate to break it to you but everyone in the Amway upline are a bunch of fucking assholes.

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    4. so u have to know, for some people who live in a big city like me, we don't have any backyard that can geow oranges, apples or anything else..
      we can grow some chillis but not fruits or veggie

      not all people have the money to have a house with a big lawn here, so yes we have to but fruits at the supermarket and 10 oranges will costs us about $2 so yes we choose to take bio c instead...

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    5. Selifi, you still miss the point of the fact that even if you don't buy real oranges, you can get vitamin C pills at the store for a FRACTION of the cost as the scam product, with every bit the same benefit. Of course the scammers are going to bullshit you with "oh no, their product doesn't have as much vitamin C as ours", but the cheaper store bought ones have all the daily vitamin C requirements you need. And one has to be careful not to overdo it with vitamins because with some it can actually HURT you to have too much per day. But I'm sure they will tell you that they know better. Con artist scammers always think they know more than the doctors do. lol

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    6. selifi - and as long as you stay in Amway you'll never be able to afford a nice house with a backyard where you can have orange trees.

      How lucky for you to have $2 bag of oranges. Laughing trying to remember the last decade I could still buy a bag of oranges from a guy standing in the street! LOL!

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  27. To Anonymous from Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh, India - you got something to say, say it in English, the language this blog is written in. I've wasted enough time going to language converters so everyone reading the blog gets a translation of what you dumb fuck Amway ambots are too chickenshit to say in English.

    So DELETE.

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  28. Amway dishwashers and liquid soaps are found to be over concentrated. They simply increase the acidic content and say , hey look what great job is our product doing, because of this exceptional quality that our products are costly.

    Fact of the matter is, Amway itself says that it gives 40% of the income to IBO's. Then how can we expect their products to be of any normal price ?

    Read this article for more details.
    http://themadeconomy.blogspot.in/2013/06/amway-most-intelligent-scam-ever.html

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    1. Hi skt. You got it. Amway has to price their products to cover their costs of manufacturing it, plus a hefty profit for themselves, plus all the commissions that get paid out of that sale. People would rather shop at big box stores that have lower prices and more selection. Less than 5% of Amway's sales are made to people who are not IBO's. Their soaps are shit anyway that don't get the job done.

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  29. PLZ TELL how much u get from hidden source for defaming amway.if u r not practising some things in life u cant become habitual for them.in same manner without getting enough knowledge and understanding amway people like u think that only doing some discsussion n only joing people without explaing them how to deal WITH amway instantly u can make money??one thing always keep in mind,despit many peoples negative view,that we aproximately give our hardwork mony to people in retail shop without any hasitation n problem.give them our 28 year sallery without relationship.at that time no single rupee discount gurantee given by retailor.and in return we purchase qualityless phosphate products harmful for environment.In job,u r bounded only with hardwork n just obeying boss.in spare time waste only time with barganing for middleman needs,thinking like cheaper,suggesting economists about world economy with friend,this is our real achivement.we job mentally people can easily teach great players about their games yhat how they should play.our countrie economy should be in such a way supposing ourself as a famous economist.we r not ready to change anymore BUT REALY WANT THAT SITUATIONS AROUND US SHOULD GET CHANGED.So instead of blaming AMWAY,do something useful for ur family without wasting time in group of Great scientist friends.ITS SIMLE PEOPLE CAN ONLY ARGUE OR CAN MAKE MONEY, NO MATTER WHAT IS SOLD

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  30. My name is Isla and i want to testify of the good work done by a faithful man called Dr.Muku, in my life i never thought there is such thing as spiritual intercession. my problem started 8 years back when the father of my kids started putting up some strange behavior, i never knew he was having an affair outside our matrimonial home. it dawn on me on that faithful day 14th of July when he came to the house to pick his things that was when i knew that situation has gotten out of hand and he then told me he was quitting the marriage which i have built for over five 7 years, i was confused and dumbfounded i called on family and friends but to no avail. two months after i started having problem with my kids welfare rent-age and all of it, i really went through hell. until a day i was browsing on the internet and i happen to meet a spell caster i never believed on this but i needed my man back so i gave the spell caster my problem at first i never trusted him so i was just doing it but you know a problem shared is half solved after 3 days he told me my husband called me telling me that he his coming back home and that was all. now we are living happily and i still do contact him on this email: mukumukushrine@gmail.com

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    1. Hello Isla from Nigeria. I think you've penned a few emails I've received. The ones about the king in hiding who wants to transfer millions of dollars into my bank account.

      Why would you want your husband's lying cheating ass back in your house? The next time he cheats on you call Dr. Maku and have him cast a spell on your husband's dick to make it shrivel up and fall off.

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  31. Hi everyone

    Recently met an ambot, who kept telling about some "clean", super high quality products, a mystical water cleaner which are available only to the "chosen ones", like, these are the products you cannot find in the shops even if you pay a million.

    Its amazing, that brainwashed people in amway demonize the ads and commercial and call me a brainwashed by TV :D

    I guess, amway uses neiro linguistic programming. All the people are talking the same bull shit with the same "magical" phrases.

    I think that a simple seller is called a "BUSINESS OWNER" is also a way to brainwash. They use the weak points of human psycho and play on ambitions.

    This has all the characteristics of a sect, talking to them I feel like Im being haunted by Jehova's witnesses.

    BUT< WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT

    It is harming people by misleading them, i.e. they preach falls healthy life.
    The agent I met claimed that you can even smoke, you can eat and drink whatever you want, and IF you take the vitamins and the "holly" pure water from the filter, you gonna live forever and not die of cancer.

    I think this should be stopped somehow. Instead of quitting smoking, physical training and healthy food people just by vitamins and pricy water filters and "Belive" that "evil" will not touch them.

    Their products contain preservatives, soy lecitin and other chemicals that are not advisory for healthy life, and they admit it.
    The official site contains information, that the water filter does not clean all the harmful chemicals. So, then whats the difference with "usual" products?

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    1. Hi anichika5. Glad that you saw right through the ambots bullshit. These bastards lie about the miracles Amway products do and the head office does piss all when you call in to complain. Amway ambots make outrageous claims and people search the Internet to see of they really cure cancer and other terminal illnesses and fortunately find their way here and hopefully understand its all lies.

      Ha ha on the JWs. They were hunting in my neighborhood on the weekend. I walk around the corner with my dog and smacked right into 2 who tried to sell me some pamphlets.

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  32. hi everyone(before saying i am sorry for my english is not my first and even second languege)i am russian and i live in jakarta,so one of my friend offered to me be a member of that pyramide and i said not,sorry it's just not for me,but because i dont want to lose friend i said that i'll buy one of the product(cheap one)that is the way how it works...thay taking by forse families members and friends...i dont know about quality of products but i am sure that not the best one,because good products easy can find in markets and you can choose what is suits to you...why amway does not choose that simple way to sell theyr products..looks suspitious to me..thanks for this blog anyway

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    1. Hi Anonymous. Thanks for stopping by with your story and sorry to hear about your friend. Very clever of you not to get involved in the Amway scam. And yes all these ambots can do is try to force family and friends to buy their overpriced products that are generic or substandard. You keep going to the market where you'll find a bigger variety of high quality products at lower prices than what Amway sells.

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  33. My name is Angelica. I want to testify the great work of Dr.Zack Balo for helping me to get my Ex boyfriend and my job back.I thank Dr.Zack Balo for helping me to recover all what i have lost before back,this is why I said I must tell the whole world, what he did for me is real, if you need his help you can contact him via wiseindividualspell@gmail.com.


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    1. Hi Angelica from Nigeria! Lost your boyfriend and lost your job? Yup sounds like Amway for sure! You don't know Isla do you?

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  34. Hi Anna, I just want to thank you for sharing your experiences of the Amway products. I was at first very skeptical about these products; however, after reading your story, I can really see how Amway sells these substandard products. They are indeed overpriced and I feel really sorry for your husband to have purchased so many.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous. Glad you're finding the blog helpful. I'm really sorry we purchased so many overpriced substandard Amway products too.

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  35. LOL! My Gawd...I loved reading your article...esp. the way you wrote it. I also went in for it...and got out just as soon when I was told that I will have to grab the products from their store house and I believe that members fight ..with each other ..wrist fights too...well that was very long ago when Amway (bongs pronounce it as AMOY..like Ahoy btw.) was just new in town and there was only one storehouse in some Godforsaken place!..recently I went in for Herbal life - not as member but as a customer..shelled out over thousands...and lost..1.5 kgs. in 4 months!!...I have decided to give it up for good!

    In the mean time I am sharing your blog at FB. cheers!!

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    1. Hi Aparna! Glad you stopped by! Ahoy Amoy! Hope that means Goodbye. Most MLM's are the same. Selling overpriced useless products. Surely you can find something better at a drugstore that can help. Happy 2014 to you!

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  36. It pains me to no end that Amway has been allowed to swindle gullible millions in India. With their useless and overpriced merchandise, Amway is the last thing I want to see in India. If they believe so strongly that their products are genuinely superior, they should come up with free single-use sachet samples for distribution. But no way are they going to be that honest and straight forward with any country they operate in. These scamsters don't even have the courage to mention the word 'Amway' to the prospective bakras. Amway = Scamway!

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    1. Hello Sai. Yes its very sad that Amway is allowed to prey on those in society who can least afford to lose money to this scam. Amway is the last thing most countries want to see. It must be big bad news in India, I get a lot of visitors from that country.

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  37. Anna, it might be more effective to refrain from using such strong expletives in your posts if you wish to convince people of your point of view. Or calling someone..oh,stupid asshole ambot or some such. That said, I do have some sympathy for you.

    I was involved with Amway back in the late 1970's. I would say Amway has some good products, and some bummers. They have many more products now, and perhaps a higher percentage of them are "bummers."

    SA8 (the detergent) seemed pretty good at the time.It may not have been the absolute best, but many products sold aren't. And they aren't any cheaper either. I remember the demo (and giving the demo) on a product called LOC (Liquid Organic Cleanser). It was an amazing and convincing demo. Of course, you pick the demo to show your product off at its best. And the shoe polish/hankerchief demo was darn convincing. But, as with other cleaning products, it is not effective on everything. You have to know your product, its strengths and weaknesses, and be honest with customers about them. Amway does not promote you doing this. They just say its great for everything, go tell people to buy it and use it yourself. So a product may be thought to be ineffective when really its just not effective on what its being used on. And if its supposed to be a general purpose cleaner then it should be effective on a wide range of things, but probably not everything.

    The dishwasher detergent sounds like a bad product. They should probably discontinue it, and buy a company with an effective product that does not hurt their brand name. Same with those Dish Drops, because they sure elicited a strong negative reaction in people.

    The real way to make money in Amway is to reach Diamond (by having a broad and deep Downline who are using the products properly and selling them properly). Once at Diamond, you make a speech at a convention center and sell the tapes to all the Ambots. Then write a short book and sell that to all the Ambots. When you consider how they tell each person they need to buy 2-3 books and 2-3 tapes at each of those conventions (and say you wrote/recorded them all) you can just rake in the dough. That's where you really make money, not selling product.

    I was an Electrical Engineering student at the time I got involved in Amway. It began interfering with my studies. My Upline, who was a school teacher, basically said I should drop out and concentrate on Amway. I nearly punched him. Really. An actual school teacher told me to drop out of school to pursue Amway. I walked away from Amway then and never looked back.

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    1. Anonymous - thanks for sharing your story and you got it. The only way to make money in Amway is to be at the top and sell tickets to hear you speak and sell copies of motivational CD's and other stuff that is commonly referred to as the Amway tool scam. Today they still teach downline to drop out of school to pursue an Amway business. In other words, redirect the money you're spending on tuition and spend it on Amway products to make your upline richer.

      The swearing is all part of the entertainment around here. People who would love to curse out their Amway upline but can't come here to see it done. Keep them entertained and they keep coming back. This blog gets over 1000 visitors daily.

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  38. I use them too and they work wonderful. All of you are lying because if you were telling the truth you would have thrown in "I got my money back from the 180 day money back guarantee) so the "massive dent" in your bank account would have been fully restored. Bottom line is. If you do amway you have to understand that you have to learn success principles and grow as a person. If you are going to curse and bash amway like this. Then seems like your negative impolse on anything thtt doesn't work out for you and you immaturity is what made you fail. Or seems like you were the bitchy wife that was only trying to be supportive for your husband, got in, and found another thing to bitch about. I'm going to go enjoy my 500 dollar profit I made this month, with bonuses, on a new tv:D have a fun bitchy life you negative, and illiterite because people kept saying they weren't in amway. You just saw they were disagreeing with you so you just had to bitch, dumb loser

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    1. Have you ever actually tried to get a refund and jumped through the hoops? Or are you just giving us lip service? What about the shit kicking you get from the assholes in your Amway upline because when you get a refund everyone upline takes a hit on their PV. I think you need to get yourself to the nearest Amway meeting because you don't understand the Amway motto of never saying negative. That's why people hang out on this blog so they can say negative.

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  39. Hey Anna, I want to thank you for such an amazing blog! My parents have been involved with Amway for a couple of years now and I keep waiting for them to give up, but it just doesn't seem to happen. We've had fights over their involvement in what I deem to be an evil, manipulative corporation, even resulting in family holidays being ruined! It sucks because I feel like my parents are fairly intelligent people, which makes it all that much harder to come to terms with the fact they have been brainwashed beyond help. I've always been upfront with them, stating that I want nothing to do with their "business", but just today my mother called asking me to buy supplements..pretty much trying to guilt me into purchasing products by using the ploy of supporting someone I loved by investing in their business..gross!! I kept telling her that I would much rather eat my vitamins via actual fruit and veggies than take a pill seeing as how it's seemed to work out quite well for mankind over the last couple millennia, but she kept trotting some bullshit Amspeak prompt to keep countering my claim to a truly natural lifestyle. It breaks my heart to see my parents act like such fucking tools, especially after I've been so point-blank with them about my disdain for Amway. How can I politely kick them back into touch, or is it even possible? They have to be reaching if they're trying to peddle their overpriced bullshit to their broke daughter, ya know? I realize you might not have the answers, but I had to let you know I appreciate a blog like yours which is dedicated to exposing the bullshit that is Amway...thanks Anna!

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    1. Rachel - thank you for stopping by. Glad you like the blog. I hear from kids of ambots every now and then and there's some very sad stories of neglect and how much these kids hate Amway for how its destroyed their lives and chances of having a normal childhood. Look at the links on the right hand side of this page to download a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. Its a frightening story written by a former Emerald who had 1000 people in his downline and was only making $2 - $3/k/month. The numbers just aren't there to make money at Amway. Sad to say you might have to watch them hit rock bottom and go heavily into debt before they get out of this scam. You can be pretty sure the assholes in their upline are working your parents at kicking you out of their lives because you don't support them in their business. Amway is all about destroying other peoples lives. This is the place to come and curse out those bastards so feel free to do so! Good luck to you.

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  40. Anybody ever use the Amway toothpaste ? It was the mid 90 's and I used it for 6 months as an easy way to get some points. My dentist was horrified! Nothing but excellent check ups for 20 years and then significant softening of my teeth. I have permanent white marks along the bottom row of my lower front teeth. Dentist put me on an extra daily flouride treatment for 10 years and was afraid to take me off because he felt it had to be something with my chemistry. Changed dentists and we tried stopping the treatment and monitoring. Back to excellent checkups for 8 years now.

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  41. Google .....20 Stone Toad's "Better Not be Amway"......must have been a former rep.

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  42. I'm using Amway SA8 to wash will I read this.This is the BEST detergent on the market. It rinses clean with no residue like cheap store bought detergent.
    I tried Amway twice and did not get rich. I may try again . Bo Short made a lot of money in Amway,he also does Shaklee too. Next time I do Amway I will do it right.I'm learning not to buy inferior store products .

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    1. I had an Amway employee stop by to say they get SA8 for free and she still goes out and buys Tide because she wants her clothes to get clean. I guess you have different criteria of what you consider clean laundry.

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  43. I cant wait to try Amway again. This time I will use lead generators. I plan to sponsor the president and first lady . I can convince them to quit tier job and become an Amway distributor. Next I plan to sponsor all members of the house and senate. Once they see the plan I know they will be convinced to quit thier jobs and become Amway distributors.

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    1. Don't forget to sign up Paris Hilton, Nicholas Cage, and Kim Kardashian. Their rolodexes must be busting with contacts!

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  44. Welp just joined amway last week, Read all of this shit, And now i am like.... Fuck... But hey, Its just a side job, I dont expect to get rich with it, Any form of outcome will be nice to help me pay college, It only takes like 1 to 2 hours a day, And i dont go to any of those shitty reunions unless i plan on taking someone, Nor do i plan on paying for the books, Cds, etc, I think my uplines will have a lot of trouble with me

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    1. Hi Anonymous - I think your oh fuck instinct is right on! I hate to tell you but that 1 to 2 hours a day you can easily quadruple that or more. You won't get any side income. You have to personally consume 100PV of Amway products each month - about $300 - to be eligible for a $10 commission. You can get a job somewhere as a cashier where you don't have to buy stuff from your boss and make more money working 5 hours/week than an Ambot makes all month. When you don't buy the Amway tools you'll be in for a shit kicking from the Amway leaders. Love bombing is over.

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  45. Great Post !! your blog is very informative information share....
    Health Care Products Neem

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  46. It's so sad to see something great ruined for you because your upline and platinum were "dicks". That was the main reason you started to hate EVERYTHING that has anything to do with Amway. Also you need to take control of your household, don't let people leaving without them throwing away their mess. Put out a box or trash can where they can dump their cans. I've talked to others who have tried Amway and stopped because of similar reasons(weak upline). I did my research and found out that the only way to do this Amways involved business is through WWDB(World Wide Dream Builders). EVERYONE I have met in it have been very polite, considerate, and love to help people. That's the type of way WWDB teaches to interact with everyone. They will not let you join unless they see you are of the same caliber. They do NOT just invite everyone to join. I am very happy I started this business through WWDB.

    As for the products Anna Banana used, they have been replaced with better products now. I like every single Amway product now except for 1. The men's body wash/shampoo. So I just started using Satinique brand that Amway sells. My hair has never been so soft from any product I can buy at my local stores. Woman love running their fingers through my hair ;-)

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    1. Unknown - thanks for stopping by to let us know Amway is still a blame the victim scam. I never seen more finger pointing in my life than when I was around Amway losers. And do you really think you're the first moron to suggest that the problem was the fucking assholes in our Amway upline? How do you explain everyone else having similar stories about the fuckers in their Amway upline? How do you explain the man last week who left comments that the assholes in his Amway upline are being vicious to him because he's decided to quit. Amway Ambots act the same. They're all dicks.

      I'm sure Amway has stopped selling some products and introduced new products since I left same as any other company. I know Amway has stopped selling their substandard $100 toilet paper and the $60 generic face cream. But all the other shit like XS and Nutrilite vitamins and Perfect Water are still there. So much for your fucked up theory that Amway has replaced the products I use. Dumb fuck! LOL!

      Everyone you've met is a brainwashed Ambot who put on that fake nicey nice act. And bullshit on how they're selective on who can join their cult. They take EVERYONE that's dumb enough to pay the fees.

      And bullshit on women running their fingers through your hair. Amway is a huge turn off to women. Now take your lies and bullshit somewhere else.

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  47. As for the products Anna Banana used, they have been replaced with better products now. I like every single Amway product now except for 1. The men's body wash/shampoo. So I just started using Satinique brand that Amway sells. My hair has never been so soft from any product I can buy at my local stores. Woman love running their fingers through my hair ;-)

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    1. Once again, notice how these Amway freaks compulsively "duplicate" themselves (and their posts). It must be a fetish with them.

      This guy says that women "love running their fingers through his hair"? What a dope. That's a line from an old Brylcreme commercial, from the early 1960s. What women are doing this to him? The old biddies in the nursing home?

      If he thinks WWDB (World Wide Douche Bags) is going to continue being nice and polite to him, let him just wait a bit. The love-bombing will stop, and he'll see the real Amway.

      They don't invite everyone to join? LOL! The jerks in WWDB will sign up a warm corpse if it has the initiation fee.

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    2. Unknown - you've copied and pasted part of the other comment you left. Sure sign of an Amway loser is they go around duplicating themselves.

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    3. Anonymous - LOL - I'd forgotten that old Brylcream commercial. LOL! And that bastard thinks Satanique is going to reel in the women. LOL!

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Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Even brainwashed ambots who show up here to accuse us of not trying hard enough and that we are lazy, quitters, negative, unchristian dreamstealers. Like we haven’t heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!

If your comment didn’t get published it could be one of these reasons:
1. Is it the weekend? We don’t moderate comments on weekends. Maybe not every day during the week either. Patience.
2. Racist/bigoted comments? Take that shit somewhere else.
3. Naming names? Public figures like politicians and actors and people known in Amway are probably OK – the owners, Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway’s publicity department who write press releases and blogs. Its humiliating for people to admit their association with Amway so respect their privacy if they’re not out there telling everyone about the love of their life.
4. Gossip that serves no purpose. There are other places to dish about what Diamonds are having affairs or guessing why they’re getting divorced. If you absolutely must share that here – don’t name names. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. Lets not help them find this shit.
5. Posting something creepy anonymously and we can’t track your location because you’re on a mobile device or using hide my ass or some other proxy. I attracted an obsessed fan and one of my blog administrators attracted a cyberstalker. Lets keep it safe for everyone. Anonymous is OK. Creepy anonymous and hiding – go fuck yourselves!
6. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.
7. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. We might publish that comment to make fun of you. Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. Not interested.
8. Notice how this blog is written in English? That's our language so keep your comments in English too. If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. Guess which one is easier for us to do?
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