Child Of Amway Ambot Shares Story Part 2

Very impressed with this teen sharing the story. This is a good reason not to get involved with Amway if you have children. Your kids will have a horrible life and end up hating you. The thing is the way this kid describes their mother they could have been describing my ambot or anyone I ever met in Amway. They’re all little robot Amway ambots who act exactly the same especially with their sanctimonious attitude that everyone around them is negative and they are the only positive person around.

Hi, I'm 16 years old (almost). I commented on your older post and, after seeing your reply, decided to share my story here.

I ran into your blog a few days ago while browsing for anti-Amway sites in a desperate attempt to find SOMETHING my mother would listen to and I found it great. The fact you're trying to help people get out of Amway and your tips on how to live with Ambots are awesome. :)

My Amway story started 14 years ago when my mother joined Amway along with my uncle and his friend. They went on a "meeting" or something. My uncle and his friend (who were 17-18 y/o back then) realised immediately it's a scam and they gave up on it. But my mom didn't. She believed all that crap (sorry 'bout that, but honestly, it's crap) and started making phonecalls. To her friend, acquaintances and everyone else. Nobody wanted to join it, not even her closest friends. (This is a good time for me to mention that she was a very sociable person and had a wide range of friends.)

Nevertheless, she continued buying tapes, CDs, motivational books and other Amway products. She regurarly attended meetings.

She met other Ambots there and became friends with them. She made plans in our home and brought those people in our home.

I remember when I was 5 y/o and my sister was a newborn.. This one time, it was raining, and she left me and my sister with our dad and went on a meeting. I was sick and my sister wouldn't stop crying, but she left anyway, thinking that she was doing the best for the family.

My dad hated Amway and they always fought over it. He started running away to his parents, whom he was very close-knit and who lived a few blocks away. He started drinking. Beer, mainly, but still.. He would come home drunk and fell asleep.

Of course, that caused even more fights and eventually, after a couple years, they got divorced. (Here I must mention that Amway was NOT the only reason. There werw many others, such as personality incompatibility, different mentalities and so on.)

I was glad they split up because that meant no more fights. But still, I wasn't the happiest girl on Earth. (I mean, who wants a broken family?)

My mom still praised Amway and told me that it is going to build a future for us. (Here insert all the Amway promo stuff.)

I never bought it. Even when I was 8-9 y/o, I was clever enough not to buy it.

Her relationship with her mother is now horrible and Amway is the cause. It made my mom a robot, a brain washed person who isn't capable of thinking for hereself anymore. My grandma tried a lot to stop her from ruining her life with Amway, but she never did.

I tried too, but no success either.

My mom thinks that everyone is negative and she's the only person that thinks positive. She tells me taht if I think positive, everything can happen. When I'm sick, that's because I didn't take Nutrilite vitamins. If I have dandruff, it's because I use Nivea shampoo and not Satinique. If my sister has a rash, it's because grandma's soap fell into her washing machine and mixed with SA8!!

Her way of thinking is not normal. It's not just Amway, it's the whole mindset. I'm having a hard time living with her and I even tried to make her let me go live with my dad. But now that I'm older I realise not only that it's not going to happen, but also that even if I had a chance of doing that, I wouldn't. Because I can't leave my little sister there alone, with her. She would f**k her up completely, like she did to me. I was an adult at the age of 10, and I won't let that happen to my sister.

Sometimes I think I'm going to have a mental breakdown, but then I calm down and realise I have a whole life to live and it's not worth it.

I have to pretend 24/7 that everything is okay, when it's actually not. And that makes me tired. Really tired. But it won't help if I tell her everything because I already did that. Several times, actually. And it didn't help. Au contraire, it made it worse. She didn't hear what I was trying to say and turned it all upsiede down. She made not-quite-normal conclusions out of it. (I don't love her, I hate her and don't respect her are the lighter ones.)

So I gave up on her. But I didn't give up on my sister, and I never will. I'm looking after her and won't let the same things that happened to me happen to her.

The tension at home is sometimes unbearable, and sometimes I have multiple emotional shocks in one day. But I'm used to it.

I'm in high school now, so I spend less time at home and that's great, because I don't like being at home.

Wow, I wrote a lot of stuff down. I just wanted to share my Amway experience with people who understand. I have other problems too, but I'm not here to talk about that. (I think that I will need a shrink in the future, but I kinda don't like them. Or trust them. So my family..well, some of them and friends will have to do.)

If this post turns one person quit Amway, then I did what I was planning to.

Sorry for the long post and grammar mistakes. :)

Child Of Amway Ambot Shares Story Part 1

Don’t you feel really bad for children of Amway ambots. What a horrible life for a child watching this cult rip their family apart. Ambot parents destroy their relationships with their children just so they can worship Amway cult leaders and a box of soap. Nothing like being a kid and finding out your parent thinks a can of XS piss water is more important than you. Here’s part 1 of this teen’s story….

I don't have as much time as I need to write down my entire story, I'll just say that my mother joined Amway 14 years ago. She had phases of being very and just-a-bit-less interested in it. Amway was one of the main reasons my parents got divorced (my father's alcoholism caused by depression caused by Amway was another). Amway ruined her marriage, her relationship with me (I'm nearly 16 now) as well with my younger sister (weird relationship that I cannot quite explain), she lost her friends and alienated from her family. She believes that my grandma (her mother) and I are plotting against her and has close-to-nothing relationship with her brothers. She is brainwashed and has no common sense whatsoever. It's impossible to talk to her about it. I tried multiple times and it only led to both of us crying and wrecking our already broken relationship. She is a loving mother, I must say, and she takes great care of my sister and me. But her manipulative mind games and making me feel guilty about everything combined with her control freak personality make me almost lose my mind. I am keeping myself sane by talking to my friends (the close ones who know about it and understand it). I can't and won't explain here my entire story because it's too long, too complicated and frankly, too personal. I just want to say that Amway and Network 21 are scams and sometimes they even destroy lives.

Amway Prospect Says Amway Is A Bad Proposition

Here’s someone being prospected by an Amway ambot who hears all the bullshit everyone hears like how Amway sells the best water and vitamins around. Prospect figures out for a $50 case of water that works out to about $2 apiece. Then you’ve got that tired old Amway ambot overcoming an objection that bottled water costs $2 if you go to a convenience store. Well you dumb fuck ambot that would be because the convenience store has expenses. Electricity for the fridge that keeps the water cold, pay the employee selling the water, rent/mortgage, taxes, insurance, business license, etc, etc. Lets take the store owner and his $2 cold bottled water out of the equation. Anyone can go to Costco or Walmart and spend just over $2 to buy a case of water if you keep an eye on those sales! Amway has to make their case of bottled water around $50 to work in their profit and then make sure that everyone in the IBO’s upline gets a piece of the commission. That’s why all Amway products are so expensive RIP OFF!!!!!!! Prospect hears the same old bullshit we all hear at Scamway meetings like how Perfect Water is miracle water and Amway vitamins will cure whatever is ailing you. Yawn. Ambots are STILL using that line about asking a friend about surgery if he’s not a surgeon. But its OK to ask an ambot about surgery just because they’re in Amway that automatically gives them a medical degree and the knowledge to dispense medical advice! Those fucking Amway assholes are so Unoriginal! And prospect sums it up. Joining up with Amway would just be tooooo embarrassing.

In one Amway meeting, the speaker asked a potential downline how much he spends on bottled water. He replied $2. If he asked me, I would've either just said I buy 'em at Costco for MUCH cheaper than that, or just bottle my own water through my water filter. He then said if you're going to spend $2 on bottled water, buy the Amway water... it's oxygenated so it's better for you, and it goes towards your PV. I'm no expert on this, but my online research later on confirmed that there's very little to no benefit for water that oxygenated.

Same deal with the vitamins... they're good for you and you should definitely be buying them for good health.

In a one-on-one conversation with a "sponsor", he had the nerve to use scare tactics like if I need financial help, are my friends going to lift a finger? In all fairness, if I have problems paying bills, my rent, and other expenses, they likely will not be able to. However, I know any ONE my friends will do ALOT more then ALL the people Amway person ever will.

I lied and told him that I knew someone personally who did Amway for a year, and it didn't work out. It was a lie, but I'm confident in the stories and experiences I've read online about that. He then retorted "would you ask a friend about surgery if he wasn't a surgeon"? This is also awful, b/c it implies that someone doing Amway for a year couldn't make it, then having to be in it for at least a year to get significant returns is simply a bad proposition.

I think the most amusing line I've heard was an Amway goon telling the newcomers that there's that WWDB convention coming up... you're gonna spend the gas money anyways, so check it out. IT'S 115 MILES, ONE-WAY, TO THAT CONVENTION CENTER FROM WHERE THE CURRENT AMWAY MEETING WAS BEING HELD... No, my weekend plans did NOT involve driving 115 miles, x2 for a round trip, and if it did, it'd take alot more precedence than a week long brainwashing seminar that I'd have to shell out waaay too much gas money for, not to mention $100 ticket, and 2 to 3 nights of hotel lodgeing.

They tell you Amway is a $50B business like that alone is supposed to be reassuring... McDonald's makes multitudes more $$ than Amway, but I ain't gonna go there more than once month, if ever.

I was amused how when I went to a sponsor's home for another torturous meeting (I believe the only thing that kept me from gnawing off my own arm was playing games on my phone, and making a todo list of things I need to get done when I got home) was the refreshments and snacks she served were the supposedly "inferior" brands. She wouldn't provide any of the Amway beverages and stuff.

That's the most model about Amway and MLMs... It's one thing to do a job, but they want to drag other people in to do the same thing. Never mind how this won't work for me... It really would be embarassing for me.

Amway Ambots Using The “Living The Dream” Prospecting Angle

Here’s a piece of advice to Amway ambots who try to prospect by pretending they’re “living the dream” to potential recruits. If you’re still working J.O.B.s and pretending you’re free and living the dream, prospects are gonna be on to you. Those of us who’ve been there done that know the be rich and retired in 2 to 5 years Amway scam is just that = a scam. You gotta do better than that for the new crop of prospects who’ve been prospected before and have access to the Internet to do research. Amway ambots lies and lines have stayed the same for years. Another reader shares the joys of getting prospected by an ambot. Gotta love a prospect who tells Amway IBO’s to go fuck themselves!!!

I once was recruited for Amway, and even signed up for a few months. I immediately stopped when I found out my sponsor and his wife had been at it for a few years and were STILL working jobs! They of course made it seem like they were living the "dream."

A few years passed and I had started my own business - something that actually created value in this world, when I ran into those sponsors. They had a proposal to make to me and I agreed to meet them for coffee. To my surprise they never talked about Amway in this coffee meeting and had proposed what we thought was a legitimate partnership with another business that they started. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. I thought I might learn something so I decided to attend. To my horror it was a Fu&^%&ing AMWAY rally. After the meeting, they asked me what I thought and I politely told them that I was not interested in Amway. They asked me if I wanted freedom and told me I would be an idiot to pass this "opportunity" up again. I told them to go F&@ck themselves.

A couple years have passed since then and my business has outgrown their "dream" business ten fold and they are still slaving away, loosing friends, creating enemies and trying to recruit people who want to "live the dream." I don't think they get it.

The Amway Ambot Chuckle

Someone who left a comment on my blog reminded me of the Amway ambot chuckle.

We’ve all heard it. It’s the chuckle that people in Amway use when they think they’re dealing with a fucking moron. Those ambots need to be looking in the mirror.

The Amway ambot chuckle kind of sounds like they’re hacking up a hairball. It kind of goes like this.

HUA HUA HUA

Ambots use it when they’re having a conversation with someone who’s not in Amway and they’re trying to overcome their objections to getting involved in the Amway scam or don’t want to buy overpriced shitty products.

Prospect: Does this have anything to do with Amway?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. No its World Wide Dream Builders. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I was involved in Amway before and it didn’t work out.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. It didn’t work because you didn’t try hard enough. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: You’ve been in Amway 15 years and still aren’t a Diamond. What’s up with that?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. That’s because I’m not trying hard enough. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: Amway costs $50 a year just to buy their overpriced products?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. You can’t afford $50 a year to be in this exclusive shopping club? HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I spend $50 a year on my Costco membership and I buy well known products for less money.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Don’t you want to pay more money for quality? HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: No.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Loser! HUA HUA HUA.

Propsect: I heard Amway is a pyramid scheme.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Your job is a pyramid. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: (looking at an Amway catalogue) Holy shit. Look at these prices. I can go to the grocery store and buy a box of laundry soap for a third of that price.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Don’t you want to pay more money for quality. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I don’t want to pay more money for poor quality Amway products.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Loser! HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: (after trying a sip of XS energy drink and spitting it out) Holy fuck! That tastes like cat piss!

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. This is the best energy drink on the market. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: Fuck! If this is the best I sure as hell don’t want to try the worst! Pass me a coke.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Loser! HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: You told me Amway Artistry is one of the top 5 cosmetic companies in the world. I looked it up on the Internet and it ain’t.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. We’re #2 in the world for prestige cosmetics. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: What the fuck? Who the hell cares if their cosmetics are prestige or not?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. We’re #2. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: Next thing you’ll be telling me is that Amway sells prestige tampons and toilet paper.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. That’s right. All Amway products are prestige. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: How many people do you have in your Amway downline.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Business is going great. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: This says I can make $115 a month working 10 to 15 hours a week in Amway. That’s like $2 to $3 an hour. Rip off!

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. You can’t believe everything you read. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I hear Amway is a cult.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Your job is a cult. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: Have you been to Barnes & Noble lately?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. That’s the best place to talk to people about Amway. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I already own my own business.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. It’s a worthless piece of shit business. The only business out there that’s any good is Amway. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: How come when a dog eats Amway dog food it shits 3 times more than it used to?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. That’s because its eating prestige dog food. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I heard people lose a lot of money in Amway.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. You have to invest money back in your business. You have to spend money to make money. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: How much money do you make in Amway every month?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. None of your business. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: No seriously. You want me to join Amway I need to know if its worth my while. How much do you make in Amway every month?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. That’s private. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: How much money does it cost every month to be in Amway?

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Guess you’ll have to sign up and find out for yourself. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: We have to pay for training in Amway? At my job the owner pays for the employees training.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Your job is a pyramid and you’re making your boss rich. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: I’m not interested in signing up with Amway.

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. Then by the time you’re 65 you’ll either be dead or broke. HUA HUA HUA.

Prospect: Go to hell ambot!

Ambot: HUA HUA HUA. I’m already there. One of the joys of being in Amway! HUA HUA HUA.

Jedi Spider Sense Sniffs Out Amway Ambots!

A reader tells us if you think you're being prospected by an Amway ambot - you probably are.

I was solicited on 2 separate occassions...
1) when I bumped into a random stranger while walking, he said I looked familiar. I told him about some of the career fairs I went to and probably met him there. When I mentioned I was looking for work he gave me his business card about an "E-commerce opportunity" and to call him.

2) I got cold called from a former coworker. I was suspicious, and they proved true when he mentioned that he noticed I was always looking for more work to do and a "go getter", unlike some of the other coworkers who just surfed on the internet. I called "BS" in my mind, because our offices were never close enough for him to see what I was doing. Again, "E-commerce opportunity" was the same hook used.

On both occassions, that's what it must've felt like to have your "spider senses tingling" or that "jedi sense" of something is amiss.

A Sharp Amway Prospect Gets It!

As you can see from this letter people who are real business owners, had parents who were real business owners, went to a real business school, that kind of thing where they have real business owner mentality and not phoney Amway pretend business mentality when you’re really a commissioned salesperson can see right through the Amway scam. If this person was an ambot they'd have committed an Amway mortal sin - NEVER QUESTION UPLINE!!!!  Because this person is only a prospect and not an IBO they didn't get chewed out and publicly humiliated but they did get the old Amway asshole runaround when they asked hard questions about compensation and how does one grow their Amway business and other questions that real business owners would want to know. And then they got insulted. Yup no ambot can resist insulting someone who's not in Scamway!

Hey Anna,

Not sure if ya want to share this in your stories or not, but I just thought I would share my Amway qual meeting exp. with you.

I started thinking about doing something from home as a "supplement" to my current work from home business. I run a wonderfully successful daycare/preschool program for 1-5 year olds and it grosses me $3500.00-4000.00/month not including my legit tax write offs to Canada Revenue. (I mention this as it is a key part of my story) As well I get a great tax return each tax year!

Now, when I started looking into Amway it was because my friends are IBO's and I wanted to "help them succeed." When I googled it I got a handful of good reviews, but most of them talked about sinking $$ into it, and getting next to nothing back...

I am of the small business self employed mindset so I dismissed it at first as others not wanting to do the work so I went to my second BP. (Board Plan) It was a charasmatic couple talking about how mom "finally got to retire and stay home with her baby, and see all of the baby's milestones....."yack yack. And, they claimed they were able to do this is 3 years and that the man of the duo was 2 years away from doing the same thing... Sure great.

But how did you do that? How did you generate leads for your business? How do you make this sustainable? What kind of profit are you looking at? (ballpark) What sort of upfront costs are there? (As I know in starting some businesses have startup costs)

When I asked these questions and told the upline that this is needed to start a successful business I was given a "cold hand shake" and told that this would be answered in my nuts and bolts meeting, I just came from it today.....

AND HONESTLY.....

This asshat dismissed my daycare business as small and "not living the dream" When in reality though I am not a gazillionare we live in a nice home, and live quite comfortably (again not driving mazzorotie's (sp) or anything) my husband also works full time in Network Operations at a local telephone co.

But we aren't living the dream!!! Whatabuncha bull!!!! At least I am using my degree, and we both (my hubby and I) take pride in what we do. But we aren't living the dream. (WTF)???

The only reason I looked into amway was because of my friends, and because I wanted extra income to pay off student debt. As well as credit cards.

In today's nuts and bolts the guy admitted that they don't want people buying cleaning products they want costumers buying Nutralite, Artistry, and big "PV BV" products. He also admitted that he lives off of his tax return at the end of the year, and that he and his wife still work ft...Not only that he said he ditched a family wedding to attend "dreamnight" because they were dedicated and wanted to do everything right. WTF is wrong with this douche??

All this in front of IBO's in the last steps of the process????? Not a once did they tell you how to be a success as an IBO, instead they went on and on about CD's and WW, (World Wide) and the spring confrence (sp) thing....

OMFG.....

I pulled them aside and told them that if this is what they wanted from me that I'd be fucking running out the door, and that they can kiss my business savvy $$ making ass goodbye..Surprisingly I was told they wanted to give me an offer!

JUST AN FYI people those CD's will teach you NOTHING ABOUT RUNNING A BUSINESS NOTHING. They are braging about how rich they are; nothing more nothing less; if you chose to get involved with amway, though I doubt you would after reading this....DON'T BUY INTO THE BRAINWASHING SHIT!! And don't let them make you feel like shit for working a JOB THAT EARNS YOU A RELIABLE PAYCHECK!!

BECAUSE IF THEY ARE TRULY HONEST WITH YOU THEY ARE NOT RETIRED from the jobs they work just for amway...

Amway WWDB Family Reunion 2013

This year the Puryear Family Reunion will be held July 13 and 14, 2013 in Spokane, Washington.

The Duncan Family Reunion will be held in Portland, Oregon at the Oregon Convention Center July 26 to 28, 2013.

So you know what that means. Another blog full of keywords to help Amway IBO’s find their way here because nobody in their upline tells them piss all about World Wide Dream Builders Amway Family Reunion cause that stuff’s all top secret. Gotta help them find out the truth what really happens cause no one in Amway will tell them. Except for the hand your money over part!

This year’s theme P2S – Plan 2 Succeed

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

The best way any Amway IBO can succeed is getting the fuck out of Amway!

Cost is $330 single or $555 per couple. Slight discounts if you purchase before June 13 – take $10 off. Whooppee. That $10 one or another is gonna make you an Amway millionaire! Freedom! Flush that stinking job!

That cost is higher than the $125 ticket price at other Amway functions because it includes hotel room, two shitty meals where I think the Diamonds sit at a stage at the front of the room and get to eat something better, and tickets to the brainwashing conference. Ha ha for IBO’s who live within driving distance getting fucked and being forced to take a hotel room where they ain’t gonna get no sleep anyway because the assholes in their Amway upline will force them to stay awake all night attending Night Owl brainwashing sessions that serve no purpose other than to keep the ambots sleep deprived. A common cult tactic is when cult followers are sleep deprived they are more likely to agree to anything. Just be like me and say fuck you to the assholes in your Amway upline when they tell you to get your ass to the all nighter Night Owls and tell them you’re going back to your room to sleep. That really fucks up the Amway uplines plans to brainwash you.

And what happens at the Amway Family Reunion brainwashing function? Ambots spend most of the day being bored by losers who qualified as Platinum sometime in the past year. Those brainwashed Platinums stomp across the stage and gush about their love for their upline Amway cult leaders. There might be some other people coming across the stage too who qualified at a certain level in the past year like Emerald or Diamond. They all say the same shit and their only objective is to either bore the shit out of the ambot audience or make them envious enough that they’ll get fired up enough to want to stand on the stage one day too and they’ll work extra hard to scam people out of their money by buying shitty overpriced Amway products and signing up to be an IBO. As the evening DRAGS on some Diamonds will get up on the stage with the typical motivating brainwashing you can get bored by at any Amway function. They’ll brag about their riches real or pretend. They’ll say its training and introducing new ways to fuck over potential prospects. That kind of thing. Nothing ever changes. They keep you up late at night boring you to death at Amway World Wide Dream Builders WWDB Family Reunion and then expect you to go to Night Owls. Really what do you need a hotel room for you don’t get to spend any time in it sleeping.

If someone even remotely related to you in Amway cause this is why its called Family Reunion it can be crossline of crossline of crossline some asshole in your Amway upline is gonna tell you to rush down to the stage and stand there gazingly adoringly at the fuckers up on the stage and show them cult love. If you get close enough to the stage you gotta thump on it like a child would do when they’re waiting for supper.

Who is going to be boring the shit out of the ambots at this year’s WWDB Amway Family Reunion:

Ron and Georgia Lee Puryear

Dave Severn

Glen and Joya Baker

Greg and Laurie Duncan

Dan and Sandy Yuen

Jim and Judy Head

Matt and Sandee Tsuruda

Yup the same old tired speakers you hear at every Amway function who are older than hell. So much for all these new Diamonds that are breaking all the time according to those fucked up ambots who sometimes stop by this blog to leave comments. They sure ain’t getting the fees for speaking like they thought they’d be getting at this level. All they want is their piece of the tool scam pie.

Family Reunion sucks!

All Amway functions suck!

World Wide Dream Builders sucks!

Amway sucks!

Save your money and stay away or you’ll suck too!

To The Amway Ambot From Tijuana Mexico

I don’t know if it’s a language barrier or not but you seem to know enough English to leave a comment in it which tells me you have probably figured out that this blog is in English.

Perhaps you haven’t read enough posts to realize that the blog exists mainly to curse out the fucking assholes in my Amway upline and because my upline is everyone’s upline everyone gets to join in on the fun. Same lies. Different assholes.

In other words this blog is not written by or read by people who love Amway the company, Amway products, or Amway people. Anyone who has any of those loves in their life is not reading this blog unless they are seriously fucked in the head with deep psychological mental problems. People don’t read stuff like this that is against their viewpoint because it just pisses them off. Do you go around every day reading stuff that you know is going to piss you off because I sure as hell don’t. But then I don’t have serious mental problems. To sum it up if you think this blog is all lovey dovey about Amway you are wrong. Or seriously fucked in the head.

The people who read my blog and leave comments used to be in Amway and want to tell others how they were scammed to help others from making the same mistake. We talk about the shitty overpriced Amway products and the lies we heard and wasting time at dumb ass Amway functions. Sometimes friends and families of ambots stop by to tell us what’s happening to their brainwashed loved ones.

Infrequently I get dumb ass Amway ambots stopping by and leaving comments. Usually to the effect of I’m a quitter, I’m a loser, I didn’t try hard enough, I’m lazy, I’m fat, I have a job, I’m ugly, I’m broke, I’m negative, I’m a dream stealer, I’m an unsupportive wife, etc, etc. Those fucking ambots think they’re so original NOT!!!! I heard that bullshit many times from the stage and from the fucking assholes in our Amway upline. This is what being in Amway is all about. Putting down other people and insulting them if they don’t participate in Amway. Its what makes them feel like important big shots when the reality is they come across as a bunch of lousy insensitive arrogant fucking assholes.

That’s what we’re here to talk about. Fucking Amway assholes. And to turn the tables on those Amway fuckers and insult them and make them look like the I don’t give a fuck assholes they are.

You keep showing up here and leaving comments with a link that you think we’d be interested in watching a Youtube video of some dude in a suit pretending to be a big shot Amway ambot in Colombia who’s leading the Diamond lifestyle. More than once? How many times do you think readers of this blog want to hear about some Amway asshole who isn’t even speaking English the language this blog is written in. Just because he puts on a suit and stands on a sidewalk and jabbers about freedom thanks to Amway, no job thanks to Amway, and bazillions of dollars rolling in each month thanks to Amway don’t make it true. That bozo has a lot to learn about staging videos! Diamonds surround themselves with mansions and sports cars and other toys that they think will make their downline envious or that they can have it all too if they stay in Amway for 2 to 5 years. Standing on a street corner in a 3^rd world country bragging about your riches but no show and tell don’t make too many people I know envious and want to live that lifestyle. They think you're a lying little bastard!

I mean really why the fuck are you here and keep coming back? I get it that there’s no blogs out there for people who love Amway more than their families but you’re barking up the wrong tree here. People in Amway are too embarrassed to let anyone know they’re in Amway so they sure as hell ain’t going to put up a website saying here I am and I’m in Amway because everyone will laugh at them for being dumb fucks for signing up with Amway. People who love Amway products and love their Amway upline are not reading my blog unless they’re a bunch of dumb fucks. You’d have to be seriously fucked in the head to read a blog on a subject that is opposite to how you feel. I mean you don’t see me going around seeking out websites written by people from opposing political parties than the one I support because that would piss me off and isn’t mentally healthy. I don’t read these websites and I sure as hell don’t go around leaving comments trying to swing them to my way of thinking. That’s because I don’t have a serious mental problem and I don’t choose to piss off people with opposing views. I stay away from websites that have no interest to me. That’s what normal sane people do. Normal people don’t read about stuff they don’t like that’s only going to piss them off.

Fucked up brainwashed Amway ambot assholes not so much judging by you keep coming back.

People who love Amway aren’t reading this blog and the people who are reading this blog aren’t going to look at dumb ass Youtube videos of some Amway ambot playing dress up and make believe and speaking in a language that is not directed to the main audience of this blog. You need to find like minded blogs and people not posting somewhere that people don’t give a flying fuck.

Figure it out! You got a better chance of making a run for the border and getting past the first parking lot in Chula Vista before border patrol catches you than you do of making any money in Amway!

Is Amway Artistry Really In The Top 5 Cosmetics Brands?

**edited to add: If you're an Amway loser who wants to leave a comment and lie about which makeup the Miss America pageant uses, we recommend you go to the Miss America website first and look at their sponsors before you spread lies here and make yourself look like an even bigger Amway asshole**

You know how when you’re in Amway and listening to those liars up on the stage or maybe just listening to the lying sack of shit Platinum in a living room and these fuckers are gushing on about how Artistry cosmetics is in the top 5 in the world. I’ve written a couple of posts about this before and included a list of the top cosmetic brands. Amway was #17 on the list I think. Not too shabby but a far cry from the top 5.

Turns out that Amway is in the top 5 “prestige” cosmetics – what the fuck??? Ask women what they’re looking for in cosmetics and the answer ain’t prestige. We’re looking for cosmetics that get the job done for what we need it to do. We’re looking for good prices. We’re looking for cosmetics that look good on us. We’re looking for environmentally friendly products. We’re looking for fresh, new products. We’re looking for a good selection. Stuff like that. Who the fuck says they’re looking for “prestige”. Do dumb ass brainwashed Amway ambots even say that???? Doubt it. All they say is “top 5” which misleads people into thinking Amway Artistry is one of the 5 best brands in the world. An Amway IBO misleading someone? How unusual is that? NOT!!!!!

Turns out that Amway pays a marketing firm somewhere in Europe whose name escapes me and I don’t feel like looking at some old posts to refresh my memory. Some obscure company that no one on this side of the Atlantic has heard of anyway. Amway pays them and chooses a place in the standings. Why they choose #2 instead of #1 I don’t know. I don’t know if this is a lifetime placing or they pay every year for their spot. 

They want you to pay for viewing rankings on this web page, but you can see the 2019 top 50 cosmetics ranking but you still won't see any sign of Amway or Artistry. https://brandirectorypublic.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports_free/brand-finance-cosmetics-50-2019-preview.pdf


Here's the list of the top 50 cosmetic brands for 2018
http://brandirectory.com/league_tables/table/cosmetics-50-2018

Here’s a list of the top cosmetics brands in 2012. (updated 2015) 

http://brandirectory.com/league_tables/table/top-50-cosmetics-brands-2015

You can check out the top 50 cosmetics brands for 2016 here.

There’s never much movement in the top 10 – Avon, L’Oreal, Estee Lauder, Lancombe, Nivea, Olay, and so on are always pretty much there but they might slip up or down a place. Amway Artistry isn’t in the top 5. Hell Amway Artistry ain’t even in the top 50 as of 2012 so that’s a huge slide for them in a matter of a few years. The lowest spot had 250 million in sales so Amway Artistry is lower than that. And is that a big surprise. Normal women who are not brainwashed ambots don't want to pay big bucks for overpriced substandard cosmetics. I can buy Avon face cream for $10 if its on sale compared to $50 or $60 for similar Amway product. Amway has a shitty selection when it comes to lipstick and eye shadow colors. A recent comment left by one of my readers said she sat her ambot husband down and went over the ingredients in an Amway cosmetic product and pointed out the problems in the ingredients they weren’t environmentally friendly or linked to a disease or something along those lines. Some women don’t care and others say no fucking way am I putting something like that on my skin.

So there you have the list of the 2012 top 50 cosmetic brands in the world click on it if you want but Amway Artistry ain't there. If some Amway asshole tries to convince you to buy Artistry cosmetics because its one of the top 5 cosmetics show them this list and have them point out which one of those top 5 in the world is Artistry. Tell the Amway jerk you prefer to buy from better companies, who are really top brand companies instead of some shitty rip off cosmetic clinic that has to lie about where their standing is.

And from marriedtoanambot let’s just send another big old FUCK YOU out to Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots.

**update to add the 2014 link for top 50 cosmetic companies in the world**

http://brandirectory.com/league_tables/table/cosmetics-50-2014



**another update to add the 2015 link for top 50 cosmetic companies in the world**

http://brandirectory.com/league_tables/table/top-50-cosmetics-brands-2015




**another update to add the 2016 link for top 50 cosmetic companies in the world**
https://www.rankingthebrands.com/The-Brand-Rankings.aspx?rankingID=196

*** Just another updated link for 2020: https://brandirectory.com/rankings/cosmetics/table

 

 

Don’t Pay Your Rent!

Who else remembers going to Amway meetings and listening to the cult leader gush on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the next Amway major function and how it’s the go to event of the year, a once in a lifetime opportunity, a not to be missed function. Blah blah blah.

Cost of going to these functions that always seem to be WAAAAYYYYYY out of town goes into the hundreds of dollars for most ambots when they add up the ticket, transportation, hotel, and food. Sure buying the ticket might be the cheapest part at $125 but add up everything and the ambot must bring along the amford wife and it’s a lot of money to go to some fucked up Amway brainwashing conference.

An objection most ambots come up with is they can’t afford to go. Then stand back and watch the fucking assholes in their Amway upline scream and abuse them and publicly humiliate them at Amway meetings. Of course the Amway cult leader has a response to every objection that a person comes up with. The most common one I heard at Scamway meetings was to cut your costs somewhere else so you can attend the Amway function eliminate other costs that don't have to do with Amway of course. You always want to make sure you're paying as much into the Amway scam as you can so the upline can make money off you! In World Wide Dream Builders WWDB  this Amway convention would be Family Reunion, Dream Night, Spring Leadership or Free Enterprise Days FED.

The most common solution the Amway cult leader gave its followers was skip paying your rent.

I mean what the fuck kind of bullshit advice is that? Well its typical “counsel with your Amway upline” bullshit.

Whoever owns the house or apartment the ambot is renting is running a business and has financial obligations probably counting on that rent to cover mortgage and other bills on that building. If some Amway asshole decides to take the advice of their upline and not pay their rent that puts the building owner into financial distress. Why should someone who isn’t in Amway lose money? Don’t pay your rent and you’ll come home to an eviction notice stuck on your door. Depends where you live you got one day, one week, maybe one month to pay your rent or get out. If your excuse to your landlord is you counseled with your Amway upline and were told to skip your rent so you could use that money to attend an Amway function that ain’t gonna fly. The landlord is going to want a tenant who is going to pay their rent.

So you’re an ambot and take the advice of the fucking assholes in your Amway upline and don’t pay your rent and get evicted you’re gonna be out on your ass. Is the asshole who gave you that shitty advice going to let you move into his house. Probably not but you never know. Some ambots like living together in cramped living situations. How many ambots can you cram into a 2 bedroom apartment? 25?

The next time that Amway cult leaders counsels you to skip your rent so you can go to an Amway function ask them what their plan is when you get evicted. If they got no answer tell them to go fuck themselves. You need a place to live. Don’t be stupid and listen to those dumb ass Amway ambots. They don’t give a shit about you or what your situation is. All they want is your money by any means they can get it.

Amway Ambots Can’t Fool All Their Prospects!

Another creepy story of getting prospected by a creepy Amway ambot…..

Wow thank you so much for your blog. My bf and I were like a lot of other people told about the “business plan” by my bfs friend. We caught up with him to hear him out. His up line was also there.

You’re so right they don’t mention Amway and they spend the whole meeting asking what our dreams are. To be 100% honest with you yes I was very interested I mean it’s all very appealing. Anyway we went to one of the meetings where some guy (an up line) went on to tell us that basically if we don’t do Amway we will end up broke and living on the streets by retirement age but if we do we will accomplish all our dreams, although he didn’t tell us exactly what to do just told us about how rich he is and how close-minded the people who don’t do it are stupid and doomed to fail in life. How very few people out of Amway have money to retire with. He also told us that his wife and himself go on holidays and send postcards to those who said it wouldn’t work.

True it does work IF YOUR AT THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID!!! Oh so sorry it’s not a pyramid scheme is it nooo its network marketing completely different (yes sarcasm was used).

I’m so glad that I’m a curious person and googled Amway I’m also glad I didn’t actually sign up. My boyfriend did so I was helping him out by texting people to see if they wanted to join (before I googled Amway) and drum roll please NO ONE wanted to join me. I do know why though it’s because I’m honest and actually mentioned Amway in my txt (face palm) that’s right I’m meant to be deceitful. F THAT I don’t know about them but my mum taught me to be honest. Just saying.

AND HERE’S THE HAPPY ENDING!!!

i have convinced my bf to quit to thanks to your blog. one of the creepy things i found is that i live in australia and the way they get you involved and try to keep you involved was exactly the same as you and other people had written some times even down to the wording used.

Getting Prospected By An Amway Ambot

A reader shares their story......

Initially, I told myself I wasn't going to go through any of these blogs, as Amway has already wasted 4 hours of my life. However, these have been very nice reads, and I'm still coming out ahead financially and time-wise since I never bothered to sign up with Amway.

I've got waaay too many things to say about the 3 meetings I've gone, but if this won't be my only post, at least I can pace myself....

For my most recent Amway meeting, I had a feeling that it was more MLM/Amway/Quixstar bs. Because of a miscommunication with my "new sponsor", I decided to give this a shot. When entering the meeting, existing members and the "goons" standing around the perimeter said that since I was new, I should go up front. I told them "no thanks", I'll stay here in the last row. I played games on my phone for 20 minutes, but I just had to leave. When I left, my "sponsor" and other "sponsors" were waiting outside the door to confront us and to sign on as an IBO and/or go to that convention in 3 weekends.

I told him I'd rather just continue working my existing job. After no success of getting me to sign on, my my "sponsor" and called a "senior goon" to help pursuade me. I gotta hand it to these guys... they really know how to say all the right things, while completely being deceitful in leaving out the important details. It's just downright creepy how aggressive they are in getting you to sign up for those things. For signing on, they say things like "The population of [whatever country he thinks you're from] is [whatever that figure is], if another person like you comes upon this opportunity and wants to join but you didn't take this opportunity, what do you say about that?, if another person like you joins, what do you say about that?". Don't care, but I can see how they try to get your hooks into you with that one. They also say "do you think your friends will help you if you have money problems?". If I'm having a problem paying rent or bills, I can't say for sure that the friends I've known for years will help, but it sure as hell won't be you guys.

And then they tell you that the big convention coming up is a great opportunity to learn more. Heh... during the meeting, one of the videos literally had nothing but buzz words like "empower" flash by... tells you NOTHING about being an IBO. They tell you "you're going to waste the gas anyways, so just check it out". Again, "heh".... it's 115 miles to get to that convention from where we were. Even if I had some big thing planned, it wasn't going to be a 230 mile, round trip thing. I wouldn't have to spend $100-something on a ticket, not to mention $100 to $150 a night for a hotel, and reading this blog confirms my suspicion that it's the same bullshit on a grander scale... larger room filled with more suckers, more diamonds, and now with higher ups beyond them.

I've learned my lesson, even in tough times, when someone gives you a business propisition like this, ask the 3 questions... "Is this Amway/Quixstar/MLM?", and tell them you need a "yes" or "no". Not... "it's an e-commerce business". Hope that wasn't too long... I kept it as short as I could, but it sure felt good posting this.

Again, these guys are manipulative, overly/fake nice, and creepy all at the same time.

Amway Ambot Lines to Reel in Prospects (Suckers)

At meetings we attended the IBOs were often berated by our sack of shit Platinum because prospects had not been brought to the meeting. Most people can’t find anyone to come to a meeting once they mention Amway. The sack of shit gave IBO’s suggestions on how to trick people into coming to a meeting without letting on its an Amway meeting. Yeah, that’s a real honest thing to do. What a wonderful upstanding honest company we’re associating ourselves with when we have to resort to dishonest techniques taught by our dishonest upline. Here are some of the “lines” he taught IBO’s to use when contacting or approaching prospects to get them to come to a meeting. And yes upline really does use the word “line” or “lines”. In addition to taking notes, Ambot recorded them too. Got him! This topic could also be titled “how do you know when you’re being prospected by the Amway cult”.

1.      “I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on a business I'm looking at. I really value your opinion and could use your input.”

2.     “We do sell Amway products but that's only about 20% of what we sell. Everything else comes from over 2,000 other companies most of which are Fortune 500 companies.”

3.     “How would you like to be your own boss?”

4.     “No it's not Amway. Its World Wide Dream Builders.”

5.     “Have you ever thought about starting your own business?”

6.     Want to go with me to listen to the world’s greatest motivational speaker? It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity.

7.      “Don’t you want to be free and not punch a time clock?”

8.     “Are you tired of working a J.O.B. and making your boss rich?”

9.     “Do you ever look at other ways of making money?”

10. “I'm in the process of expanding my business in the area and I'm looking for a few sharp guys who are interested in being financially free within the next two to five years.”

11.   “I work with a team of multi-millionaires developing business online with over a thousand companies. We’re looking for ambitious guys who want to create a secondary source of residual income through a proven mentorship program.”

12. “Do you know anyone who might be interested in making a couple of thousand extra dollars a month working part time only 10 to 15 hours a week?”

13.  “Don't you want your wife to come home from work and be there for your children?”

14. “I know a really sharp businessman who has some great ideas. I can’t promise you anything but how would you like to meet him for coffee?”

15.  “We work with Benny the Bastard who owns Benny the Bastard Enterprises out of Miami. He owns his own consumer distribution company. Maybe you've heard of him?”

Feel free to load up the comments box with the lines you were taught to use to trick people.